Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by carver9
The panel you posted.

Wonder Woman has been treating Grail like fodder during their latest fights. No way around this.

Her strength fts are matching Wonder Woman in fights. This applies to every character that fights and match beings with super strength. They are not lifters, Abomination, Cheetah, Doomsday, Darkseid, etc... but who they tend to rock is proof of strength.

Also, speed isn't always the deciding factor in a fight...

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I would also give Black Adam the edge over kid Flash.

She had gear when she fought Grail, no?

For all you know, without gear she's below Grail as well.

But agree - fights are good for characters with few showings.

For characters with lots of showings, lifting feats are good. I've always said this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She had gear when she fought Grail, no?

For all you know, without gear she's below Grail as well.

But agree - fights are good for characters with few showings.

For characters with lots of showings, lifting feats are good. I've always said this.

She's not below Grail because she didn't use any of her gear. She just beat her to sleep and flew off. Treated her like fodder.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao.

Anyway, all carver baiting aside, imagine if a comic came out where Joker is beating the shit out of Batman, and the text says how without his gear, Joker would wipe the floor with him .....

Originally posted by Smurph
A pretty damning nail in the "Wonder Woman is as skilled as Bruce" coffin for sure mmm

Batman without gear, Vs WW without gear, hmmm.

Edit: also, imagine the carveresque gymnastics if Joker wiped the floor with gearless Batman..."His fighting style is so kerrrazzy!!"

Never do you hear "had we taken away Steve's shield, it would surely not have been a serious contest"

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Text implies that WW only stands a chance because she has her tiara/bracers/lasso. Without them, Cheetah would destroy her, being large and fast.

Despite Diana being in that condition, she was still implied to be capable of defeating Cheetah with her tiara/bracers/lasso. They figured without them, she'd be killed. But that wasn't the point. The point was to force her to kill someone she loved in a bid to finally break her.

Nothing I saw suggested Cheetah could resist the Lasso of Truth. But Cheetah did resist the Lasso of Lies.

Originally posted by ODG
Following her 6v1 fight, Wonder Woman was captured and imprisoned. She's been mentally & physically tortured and starved for months on end by the Sovereign. Then she was dumped on that island to fight Cheetah.

Despite Diana being in that condition, she was still implied to be capable of defeating Cheetah with her tiara/bracers/lasso. They figured without them, she'd be killed. But that wasn't the point. The point was to force her to kill someone she loved in a bid to finally break her.

Nothing I saw suggested Cheetah could resist the Lasso of Truth. But Cheetah did resist the Lasso of Lies.

Cheetah herself was also quite hungry, and wasn't 100% either, just to note. Still, resisting the Lies Lasso was another good feat for Cheetah.

^ True. She's been stuck on that island for an unknown amount of time and subsisting on some coconuts and bugs. She's very very hungry. Designed to make her feral upon seeing Wonder Woman.

But she didn't go through what Diana went through. At least she had a few coconuts and bugs.

Or Wonder Woman being faster than Superman.

😂

I'm guessing you forgot about that statement?

Originally posted by ODG
Well, none of those links work. But simply residing in a "higher dimension" doesn't necessarily make you more powerful than those residing in "lower" dimensions.

Mxy, Bat-Mite and the rest of the 5th Dimension can't stop him. Also, called "Omnipotent" by Bat-Mite. Read last issue today, Doom-Mite is higher than Mxy.

in dc, higher dimensions always equate to more powerful, it was thoroughly established dc dimensions are higher planes of existence rather than alternative universes

Originally posted by carver9
I'm guessing you forgot about that statement?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A BIG OOOOOOF.

"Lead does not fly like rubber. If you miss, the bullets will tear you. I do not have Clark's power - I cannot outrun them".

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Mxy, Bat-Mite and the rest of the 5th Dimension can't stop him. Also, called "Omnipotent" by Bat-Mite. Read last issue today, Doom-Mite is higher than Mxy.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not anymore, as if you want to use new scans, the recent statement is Wonder Woman isn't as fast as Superman and can't even outrace bullets

As I said, 😂

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, aside from Mxy was scared by him to the point he tried to run away, Jimmy with Mxy powers also is a fodder in comparison to Doom-Mite

You forgot this:

"We used to have adventures...you miss those days".

From wiki:

Bat-Mite was retired from the comic in 1964, when editor Julius Schwartz instituted a "New Look" Batman that shed some of the sillier elements in the series.[3]

A direct reference to PC comics!

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Mxy, Bat-Mite and the rest of the 5th Dimension can't stop him. Also, called "Omnipotent" by Bat-Mite. Read last issue today, Doom-Mite is higher than Mxy.

But let's just say, I think you have an history of embellishment. So, forgive me for not taking this at face value.

Originally posted by MrMind
in dc, higher dimensions always equate to more powerful, it was thoroughly established dc dimensions are higher planes of existence rather than alternative universes

And I kinda think even more recent comics would've dispelled this notion. But maybe KMC rolls with it? I dunno.

Was surprised with the latest Thor issue. Seems Hickman and Ewing are cooking something up on a cosmic scale. Fingers crossed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You forgot this:

"We used to have adventures...you miss those days".

From wiki:

A direct reference to PC comics!

Waid's run is so good. Mxy finally met his match. Doom-Mite will probably be stopped by something stupid, though