Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by ODG
There are a lot of past histories. And past histories having slightly altered events is what leads to alternate timelines/universes. But it seems you are uniquely equipped to decide what's canon or not. That isn't arbitrary at all.

But, yes, now that you've run away from the notion of a "single combined timeline" and that you openly admit there's an entire multiverse and hypertime in DC, are you trying to tell us that Superman-1 and Superman-2's histories were conglomerated? Oh, right. Ads, websites, easter eggs, and now writer interviews.

None of which overrides on-panel evidence. You can pretend Superman-1 and Superman-2's history were conglomerated but hell, even Superman-1's past continues to be retconned. Just read World's Finest where it retcons Superman's first adventures with Batman and Batman/Wonder Woman.

Like... Dark Nights: Death Metal is already three years old. And you refuse to recognize actual on-panel retcons in marquis titles that are published well after. Indeed, you'll ignore on-panel retcons in favor of random easter eggs as if they somehow unretconned events? You doing it backwards, son. Meanwhile, this silly b1tch just angry that his gambit citation of Darkseid unextraordinarily resurrecting a human girl does nothing to prove that H/P Doomsday beats Odin & Asgard.

And no, it's up to me to decide.
The first it's up to DC, who makes it clear through the explicit statements in the comics, the official website, the bios(I.E, all official sources) etc that it's all canon/it's the same timeline

And the second, the mods also seem to decide it's the case. That the DC makes all eras canon

Originally posted by Galan007
I am currently of the opinion that everything in DC's published history is now canon and therefore up for grabs -- most material seems to paint that picture.

But yeah, if you don't want the 'composite canon' thing to be used, just specify a particular version of the character in the OP.

Originally posted by -Pr-
In all seriousness, I agree with Galan for the most part. People just need to state the version in the OP.

I won't say I'm running away, more like it seems that you're (intentionally or unintentionally) confusing the two ideas, and when other people pointed out, you ignored them until now.

Also, I want you give the explicit proofs that the retcons after Death Metal somehow create alternate universes. I mean, I can post more proofs that explicitly say all past iterations of DC character continuity were housed in one continuity(aside from all the proofs I already posted), for example: https://ibb.co/9vw1Rx7
While all you have is...assumptions it seems

Edit:
Also it seems a bit irony that you mention on-panel evidence, when the on-panel proofs are already posted multiple times before. Like in the comic it specifically states it's one universe(and the following page is Superman says he remembers it all

Originally posted by abhilegend
Every crisis is undone by Death Metal, it is all canon.

Let's start with something basic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nightwing about to phuck Darkseid up:

Originally posted by Galan007
Guess I'm out of the loop, but why tf does Darkseid have an axe hand?

Ah **** I saw this and tought they're doing another Marvel vs. DC / Amalgam crossover.

Originally posted by ODG
Meanwhile, this silly b1tch just angry that his gambit citation of Darkseid unextraordinarily resurrecting a human girl does nothing to prove that H/P Doomsday beats Odin & Asgard.

Is this what you are gonna do, come here every few days to run your mouth as if you weren't soundly thrashed in every way possible?

This little biatch lol.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Judging by the unlettered preview, it seems Darkseid somehow decides to cut his hand
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Originally posted by Galan007

😛

Originally posted by Galan007

I think his blood is creating the new absolute universe.

I think it's opening a portal to the Carververse.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Apparently only his blood can extinguish the fire pits.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because it's the 90s all over again

If only... 🙁

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you're essentially saying, it isn't a combined timeline(despite the DC explicitly told us so) because some elements get retconned?

On-panel evidence that continues to mount and mount and mount > old ads, old websites, cheeky easter eggs, and old writer interviews that proved hollow.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is this what you are gonna do, come here every few days to run your mouth as if you weren't soundly thrashed in every way possible?

I am really enjoying Jason Aaron/Doug Manke's Batman: Off-World. It's basically Batgod w/o prep and the only thing he's got is his fists/guts. Only a year into his career even. Somehow, Jason Aaron's writing really fits Batman. And Doug Manke has always excelled at portraying Batman.

Originally posted by ODG
Nice Bizarro-speak. Let's translate: "This is what I, abhilegend, do is come here every day to run my mouth because I continue to get soundly thrashed in every way possible."

Lol, kindergarten level "No, you" response. Fully expected.

^ abhib1tch says what?

Originally posted by ODG
No. That would be a strawman. What I am saying is that your reliance on ads, websites, easter eggs, and writer interviews doesn't prove the exact opposite premise. Because we see a multiverse and hypertime. Indeed, if you're trying to act like pre-Crisis history is preserved for current Superman such that his pre-Crisis meetings with Batman and Batman/Wonder Woman remain canon, well... that continues to be retconned on-panel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Every crisis is undone by Death Metal, it is all canon.

Let's start with something basic.

It seems you've *no explicit proofs* that support your interpretation, while at least in my position, I can give you very specific official proofs that support my claims

Originally posted by ODG
^ abhib1tch says what?

^ abhib1tch reduced to sheer stupified silence? Again? Okie. 👆

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except it already has on-panel proofs that explicitly state such?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It seems you've *no explicit proofs* that support your interpretation, while at least in my position, I can give you very specific official proofs that support my claims

You could be excused for not reading that series entirely, but nobody's fooled. You read that series obsessively searching for pre-Crisis easter eggs while hypocritically ignoring the new continuity being retconned/established.

Far be it for me to accuse you of having an agenda though.

Originally posted by ODG
^ abhib1tch reduced to sheer stupified silence? Again? Okie. 👆 That have, in the past three years since, proven to be hollow preludes. Well you'd be a moron for not accepting current issues of World's Finest which are actively retconning DC history of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, etc.

You could be excused for not reading that series entirely, but nobody's fooled. You read that series obsessively searching for pre-Crisis easter eggs while hypocritically ignoring the new continuity being retconned/established.

Far be it for me to accuse you of having an agenda though.