Here is Beast, with a pocketknife, decapitating Wolverine with little effort - no surprises, considering Logan is unable to wriggle around and Beast is a surgeon (and so, will know exactly how and where to cut to slip between the adamantium neck bones):
"Steady your stomach, and give me some steel and some space"
Bonus scan showing his adamantium grill 😂 I guess Weapon X bonded adamantium on top of his teeth, then...bonded teeth tissue on top of his adamantium bonded teeth so it doesn't show up?
Sorry Carv.
It's Percy.
There is a long list of feats from the same series by the same writer contradicting all those examples and know it well, DS.
When it works for his story's needs, Wolverine's skeleton is one fully-functional interconnected structure with no weak points to speak of. The way it has always been, ever since Claremont and Byrne.
When it doesn't, he gets dismembered.
Same thing with Hickman. Who started as a mediocre Ultimate Universe writer and many years later wanted to decapitate Logan during the "Infinity" event (616), but got stopped by editors - and rightfully so. He's been butthurt ever since.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's Percy.There is a long list of feats from the same series by the same writer contradicting all those examples and know it well, DS.
When it works for his story's needs, Wolverine's skeleton is one fully-functional interconnected structure with no weak points to speak of. The way it has always been, ever since Claremont and Byrne.
When it doesn't, he gets dismembered.
Same thing with Hickman. Who started as a mediocre Ultimate Universe writer and many years later wanted to decapitate Logan during the "Infinity" event (616), but got stopped by editors - and rightfully so. He's been butthurt ever since.
Do you have the scans to explain it? Otherwise it's just PIS why hos skeleton is shown the way it is, same like how his teeth (which aren't bone) always show up etc.
Originally posted by carver9It sucked. At least in comparison to Absolute Batman and Absolute Wonder Woman.
Absolute Superman art was great as well. Plus, it was a good read.
The world of Absolute Batman and Absolute Wonder Woman presents as particularly dystopian and corrupt at its core. Absolute Batman ain't fighting super-villains. He's fighting his own city
Spoiler:. That's a serious table-flip of your typical Batman mythos. Absolute Wonder Woman ain't preaching love to bring peace to man's world. Nah, she's waging war against demonic forces by meeting and fighting them on their level. She is the child of a banished Circe... which is an amazing origin that shouldn't have been wasted on an alternate Wonder Woman but a new super-villainess, but whatever...
while his mother is alive!!!!!
In the meantime, Absolute Superman is... fighting corporate exploitation in South America?????? Ok, it's currently against Ra's Al Ghul-led cronies with Peacemaker tech. But, y'know... it just struck me as a lazy conglomeration of Grant Morrison's N52 theme of helping the little people and Dan Jurgen's N52 plot device supersuit. And unfortunately, neither of those motifs ended up being compelling during N52. Like... at all. Phucking meh.
My only hope is that Jason Aaron explores the messiah angle that I'm detecting (maybe projecting?) between the lines. Like Jason Aaron full-on just makes him DC Jesus among the people of Earth figuratively and literally in the face of conglomerated multiversal True Form Darkseid's corruption. But I doubt DC editorial will allow it.
Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah I can agree it's dumb and the updated depiction is fine. I don't need Wolverine to be that much of a terminator. My point is just that it is an update - he used to be able to still move his hand after falling into lava, presumably now the hand would just detach at the joint.Easy enough to reconcile the change, what with all the reincarnations.
If you start preaching Wolverithmetics, you will NOT be my senpai anymore.
Sinistro overpowers Mogo
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao at today's Absolute Batman:Batman AF.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85lol you have not. Everything Stilt said is true. And "it's all PIS unless there's a sufficiently scientific explanation" is some h1-level handwaving.
I'm starting to think I have debunked a forum myth about Logan's joints....
The balance of things since the Krakoa era clearly favours Logan being able to be dismembered. Prior to Krakoa the balance of evidence tended in the opposite direction. Neither is PIS, it's just comics.
I didn't even ask for a 'sufficiently scientific explanation', though? I asked for ANY explanation.
And there isn't any so far. So the art shows him walking around with the skeleton attached? It also shows his teeth. So it shows no skeletal damage after being hit? There is no tooth damage either.
But no one here argues adamantium teeth.
Stilt says sometimes it's continuous, sometimes not. Depending on the plot.
That sounds like PIS to me.
And for the avoidance of doubt, before someone jumps on me by arguing inconsistencies occur all the time in comics (like Carver did with Orion):
It's inconsistency COMBINED with a complete lack of proof. Sure, Orion's strength level is inconsistent - so is Superman's, so is Hulk's, so is anyone's in comics.
But we all agree that Orion and Superman and Hulk have superstrength. They have superpowers. This isn't in question. We have proof they have superpowers/strength.
Wolverine's joints are inconsistent. Ok. Do we have proof they are tougher, so tough that someone like Colossus tearing his arm out of their socket is impossible to do?
Erm......
Originally posted by DarkSaint85You've been shown multiple instances where it said that his skeleton makes it impossible to rip him apart or kill him. That's the explanation.
I didn't even ask for a 'sufficiently scientific explanation', though? I asked for ANY explanation.And there isn't any so far. So the art shows him walking around with the skeleton attached? It also shows his teeth. So it shows no skeletal damage after being hit? There is no tooth damage either.
But no one here argues adamantium teeth.
Stilt says sometimes it's continuous, sometimes not. Depending on the plot.
That sounds like PIS to me.
The balance shifts with the Krakoa era and it's now clear that he could be dismembered. Ok, cool. Things change.
The teeth aren't relevant, nobody's arguing about teeth either way.
Originally posted by Smurph
You've been shown multiple instances where it said that his skeleton makes it impossible to rip him apart or kill him. That's the explanation.The balance shifts with the Krakoa era and it's now clear that he could be dismembered. Ok, cool. Things change.
The teeth aren't relevant, nobody's arguing about teeth either way.
Yeah, so nothing about his tendons and ligaments. I'm not arguing that his skeleton isn't unbreakable.
And multiple instances? The only one I saw was the one with Ba'al. With Hulk, he was struggling and was under strain until he retracted his claws. With the buzzsaw, him moving around would fully explain the saw getting stopped.
I brought up teeth because all arguments about ligaments and joints can also be applied to his teeth.
So you are implicitly arguing he has adamantium teeth.
Also, no, it's not the explanation. You are missing the argument.
The question is not why is it impossible to kill/dismember him. The question is what makes his joints/ligaments/tendons impossible to cut/tear.
His skeleton being coated in unbreakable adamantium does not explain why his joints are impossible to cut. 'His bones are indestructible' does not explain why his tendons and ligaments are indestructible.
It's literally what he says when Ba'al asks why tearing him apart doesn't work. /shrug and what he remarks when he says he could have never torn off his hand if he'd had his adamantium.
Again, your insistence on the explanation not being sufficient or sufficiently particular just smacks of h1-like IDLI,IDH. But the shift in editorial position around the time of the Krakoa era makes the matter clear enough for forum purposes.
He isn't tearing his hand off, he's breaking the bones of his hand. Important distinction.
Which again, means that all you have across the decades, the thousands of appearances of Wolverine, is a single instance, the Ba'al scan. Weighed against the multiple instances I gave of his tendons and ligaments not being adamantium.
Hence, PIS. You can say I'm being H1 all you like, but that doesn't change the fact you've only got a single scan to rely on.