Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Blight Less than Newbie

Originally posted by carver9
What makes up that difference. Example, Superman has heat vision and Wonder Woman doesn't. Would that give Superman extra points because he has additional abilities Wonder Woman doesn't have? Also, why is Batman 75 and Green Arrow 55 when these are peak humans with no super powers. This seems like it's more than just power levels. Batman is above some of the most powerful beings in DC. Green Arrow is as well. Well, Batman is, Green Arrow is just above Booster, someone who has endured a beat down from Doomsday and an ongoing attack from a team of kryptonians.
I think you're giving far too much credence to the power scale in general. Like you said, powers aren't "More powerful", just different. In some cases they'll scale really well with a particular battle and in some cases they'll be incredibly poor.

You mentioned Flash in this very thread and just about everyone knows Flash would run laps around Wonder Woman, yet somehow she's classified as "more powerful" by a simple numbers scale. Likewise, pretending Green Arrow is only half as good as Superman is a ludicrous statement.

This is all veiled in the obligatory "a character is as strong as the writer wants them to be" obviousness. If I write Hulk I'm going to have him lose to Paste Pot Pete just for you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean....

There we go.

You said it in less words than I.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It kind of funny how you changed your position in just around one day

I'm responding to Blight message, thats all. Green Arrow is obviously half of 100. I don't need to stay on that topic since the numbers are there.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

Originally posted by carver9
I'm responding to Blight message, thats all. Green Arrow is obviously half of 100. I don't need to stay on that topic since the numbers are there.

I mean, you kind of just arguing yourself at this point.
You said GA is is half as powerful as Superman, but you also argued the power levels not necessarily mean how powerful a character is in just like 3 posts later.....

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I mean, you kind of just arguing yourself at this point.
You said GA is is half as powerful as Superman, but you also argued the power levels not necessarily mean how powerful a character is in just like 3 posts later.....

I'm not arguing that, I'm asking Blight if that's how HE sees it. There's a difference.

Blight Less than Newbie

Originally posted by carver9
I'm responding to Blight message, thats all. Green Arrow is obviously half of 100. I don't need to stay on that topic since the numbers are there.
Numbers-wise GA is half of 100, but what if the step-up from 99 to 100 is the same amount from 1 to 99? What if it's more? What if 100 is, in essence, the top that you can possibly get without being something beyond beyond? 1 - 99 could be an asymptotic line, rather than a linear one. That would make the reductionism really pointless.

And once again I need to say power levels are arbitrary and really weird to use as a barometer for gauging one character to the next, especially when writers change so frequently.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not arguing that, I'm asking Blight if that's how HE sees it. There's a difference.

So if that is what he sess it, then what is your argument/rebuttal about that interpretation?
I mean, it does seem like you couldn't formulate an argument to counter that interpretation...which would make your initial stance(GA is as half powerful as Superman) seem wrong

Edit:

Originally posted by Blight
Numbers-wise GA is half of 100, but what if the step-up from 99 to 100 is the same amount from 1 to 99? What if it's more? What if 100 is, in essence, the top that you can possibly get without being something beyond beyond? 1 - 99 could be an asymptotic line, rather than a linear one. That would make the reductionism really pointless.

And once again I need to say power levels are arbitrary and really weird to use as a barometer for gauging one character to the next, especially when writers change so frequently.


👆 . This is also another possibility. But in either case, Carver's initial position seems wrong

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Blight
Numbers-wise GA is half of 100, but what if the step-up from 99 to 100 is the same amount from 1 to 99? What if it's more? What if 100 is, in essence, the top that you can possibly get without being something beyond beyond? 1 - 99 could be an asymptotic line, rather than a linear one. That would make the reductionism really pointless.

And once again I need to say power levels are arbitrary and really weird to use as a barometer for gauging one character to the next, especially when writers change so frequently.

There's a lot of what ifs in this post. All this tells me is that the power scaling there isn't usable since we do not know what it means or what they used to get a point for each character.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire
Originally posted by carver9
There's a lot of what ifs in this post. All this tells me is that the power scaling there isn't usable since we do not know what it means or what they used to get a point for each character.

So...are you saying this post is wrong/not accurate?
Originally posted by carver9
Its crazy that Green Arrow is half as powerful as Superman. Hulk power level would he in the trillions.
carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So if that is what he sess it, then what is your argument/rebuttal about that interpretation?
I mean, it does seem like you couldn't formulate an argument to counter that interpretation...which would make your initial stance(GA is as half powerful as Superman) seem wrong

If GA is at 55 and Superman is at 100, is that not more than half!

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

Originally posted by carver9
If GA is at 55 and Superman is at 100, is that not more than half!

Originally posted by carver9
There's a lot of what ifs in this post. All this tells me is that the power scaling there isn't usable since we do not know what it means or what they used to get a point for each character.

Like I said before...it looks like you just arguing yourself at this point lol

Blight Less than Newbie

Originally posted by carver9
There's a lot of what ifs in this post. All this tells me is that the power scaling there isn't usable since we do not know what it means or what they used to get a point for each character.
Life is filled with What-ifs. Your inclination that power scaling isn't usable is for the best. In fact, I would argue power scaling, in general, is kind of pointless other than a fun thing for kids to look at and go "WHOAAAA SUPERMAN IS THE SAME AS SANTA CLAUS!?"

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Blight
Life is filled with What-ifs. Your inclination that power scaling isn't usable is for the best. In fact, I would argue power scaling, in general, is kind of pointless other than a fun thing for kids to look at and go "WHOAAAA SUPERMAN IS THE SAME AS SANTA CLAUS!?"

I agree. 👏🏿

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Carver just can't admit when he gets something wrong, and feels compelled to argue in opposition, no matter what.

Blight Less than Newbie

Originally posted by carver9
I agree. 👏🏿
Good. With that in mind, Hulk definitely wouldn't be "in the zillions" right? 😂

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Blight
Good. With that in mind, Hulk definitely wouldn't be "in the zillions" right? 😂

No. Trillions. 😤

Smurph tu quoqumber

The important thing, is that Wonder Woman is more powerful than Flash.

Womp womp.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by Smurph
The important thing, is that Wonder Woman is more powerful than Flash.

Womp womp.

and Batman 👇

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
The important thing, is that Wonder Woman is more powerful than Flash.

Womp womp.


😂

Diesldude Senior Member

It’s rated as 100 = perfect score. Only Superman gets that. Then presence is many levels below at 99. Then everyone else after.

No one in marvel would get 100. Even TOAA would get 98 or less because he can only work inside a perfect system.

Hulk is a one trick pony and doesn’t even start up that high so he’s like 20 at best, right below thing.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Diesldude
It’s rated as 100 = perfect score. Only Superman gets that. Then presence is many levels below at 99. Then everyone else after.

No one in marvel would get 100. Even TOAA would get 98 or less because he can only work inside a perfect system.

Hulk is a one trick pony and doesn’t even start up that high so he’s like 20 at best, right below thing.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

-Superman:100
-Santa-100