Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I was just kidding lol.Making fun of JJs Trek 2009 and another recent blockbuster.
That said Trek 2009 was wayyyy better than TFA.
Kidding though you may be, it could always be possible. Especially since the whole world between worlds thing was introduced. But we'll see.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Time travel shenanigans again? ...I would say I don't think Disney/Abrams is dumb enough to do that, but then I'd be lying. That would be worse than DE Palps, at least with that it seemed logical based on the while Sith trying to cheat death thing.Time travel is just....I don't see why it was introduced in SW, it doesn't fit honestly(barring the outliers with hyperdrive shenanigans I mean). I mean sure before there was Flow-walking, but that wasn't really time travel in the sense of being able to affect the past or the future.
If they go with this time travel thing and use the world between worlds..../sigh. But I'm ranting now, we don't know what's gonna go down but that would be really disappointing, I already hate that Filoni pulled the time travel thing to save Ahsoka.
Great post. 👆
There was a short story in Tales From The New Republic where he guy got his ship stuck in a wormhole and there was some time travel. Been years since I read it.
I always liked the Flow-Walking thing and I love the Aing-Tii - one of the coolest factions created in Star Wars.
But yeah, I see bringing Palpatine back as a genuine sign that:
1. Disney still doesn't know what they're doing.
2. Disney is desperate and scared after the The Last Jedi fiasco and Solo flop.
They think bringing back Palpatine will appease all the fans - but the real Star Wars fans, and the ones who aren't retarded know that it's a pointless move - because Vader already fulfilled the Prophecy of the Chosen One by destroying the Sith - meaning Palpatine's return is as idiotic as it gets.
The Disney Trilogy already established its tie with the Prequel Trilogy by having Luke utter the name of Darth Sidious, meaning that the Prophecy of the Chosen One is a thing.
Dark Empire had an excuse to bring Palpatine back as a clone - because the Prophecy was not created yet in Canon.
Disney has gone full-retard - and you know you never go full-retard. 😉
Originally posted by Bashar TegAs a shift in direction given the onset of Star Wars fatigue, they could use Ep. IX to reveal that Palpatine didn't really die when Vader tossed him down the mine shaft; he materialized in the Star Trek universe and took over the Klingon Empire.
hmmm...i'm kinda liking the star trek crossover idea
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
As a shift in direction given the onset of Star Wars fatigue, they could use Ep. IX to reveal that Palpatine didn't really die when Vader tossed him down the mine shaft; he materialized in the Star Trek universe and took over the Klingon Empire.
"Star Wars fatigue"? 🙄
I don't think time travel will play a part here. I do think soul transference is a strong possibility though. Either way, this movie is meant to end everything that came before it, so something WILL happen that definitively concludes things.
One of the rumors I saw is that Palpatine will jump into Kylo, and Kylo will do something that kills himself and Palpatine's spirit once and for all. Rey is then free to rebuild the Skywalkers/Jedi however she wants.
Originally posted by Mendax
I don't think time travel will play a part here. I do think soul transference is a strong possibility though. Either way, this movie is meant to end everything that came before it, so something WILL happen that definitively concludes things.One of the rumors I saw is that Palpatine will jump into Kylo, and Kylo will do something that kills himself and Palpatine's spirit once and for all. Rey is then free to rebuild the Skywalkers/Jedi however she wants.
So basically DE II light. Only instead of Brand it's Kylo. I'm not really putting much stock in these rumors tbh. Some of them are amusing though.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Oh f*ck the prophecy, it's part of established canon. Why should directors keep their sagas internally consistent?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh Lucas/Prequel hate is still a thing?I thought everyone misses the prequels now that we have the sequels.
The prequels are vastly better than the sequel films. Anakin clunkily metaphoring about the pain of his home life is makes a shitton more sense than finn killing his excoworkers a few minuites after being utterly terrified by blood and death.
I don't think the people propping the st up due to superior writing understand what "writing" is.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
So basically DE II light. Only instead of Brand it's Kylo. I'm not really putting much stock in these rumors tbh. Some of them are amusing though.
Now imagine, instead of badass Luke Skywalker fighting Palpatine - instead, we get Rey fighting Palpatine in emo-Vader-wannabe's body.
That is not worth my hard-earned money.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
MEMING "I hate sand" doesn't change that one set of movies worked with established material while iexpanding the universe a plethora of new stories while the other.... didn't.The prequels are vastly better than the sequel films. Anakin clunkily metaphoring about the pain of his home life is makes a shitton more sense than finn killing his excoworkers a few minuites after being utterly terrified by blood and death.
I don't think the people propping the st up due to superior writing understand what "writing" is.
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Originally posted by RockydonovangAnd a prequel is expanding and preparing on the story to come, so do it well. If you don't, toss it in the dumpster. The PT was garbage, in every way possible except the soundtrack. The less the ST or any Disney movie going forward makes reference to it, the better. And that includes the nonsense prophecy; it can stay in the PT forever, where it belongs. Nobody will take that away from you, so don't worry.
Because a sequel is building on what a story has already established. Yada Yading the material you're building on is just lazy writing. If you won't follow the rules of the previous saga, while write a sequel at all?
They won't win all the hearts and minds, but they'll still win where they really care about. I think I actually "like" only about 4 Star Wars films, but I keep paying to see the new ones, so I'm not exactly helping to hurt their wallets I've got enough tolerance to last until the ST is done then I'm finished with this franchise. There just isn't that much to it, really. And I don't think there ever was.
If they ever get the balls to leave the original Lucas era characters and themes behind, I'm back on board. We've been watching the Skywalkers and Co. deal with the Empire/Rebellion stuff for 42 years now. Enough. Pick another timeline, write wholly separate and original characters, and have them do something other than argue over the same two things--Jedi or Sith, Empire or Republic. Even the EU was loaded to the brim with that derivative recycling.