People lying about Rape: How common is it really?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well the thing is, feminists will lie about the statistic and say only 2% of rape accusations are false.

However, the actual statistic is from a meta-analysis that says 2-8% of rape accusations were [b]proven to be false.

So not only is this deceptive by providing only the low end estimate, but those are only the ones that could be proven to be false.

A more accurate statement than "only 2% of rape accusations are false" would be "at the very very least 2-10% of rape accusations are false"

In over half of rape cases IIRC the accusation can't be proven true or false.

What's truly disgusting about this is that feminists will use the "women don't lie about rape" claim to try and undermine due process so that a person's life can be destroyed by an unproven allegation. [/B]

Indeed feminists are a joke. I remember that one time when Brie Larson ( the actress who plays Captain Marvel), got overly sensitive just because some male journalist smiled at her. And then she started spouting shit on twitter like "to live life as a woman, is to live life in defense", just because a male simply smiled at her.

Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
Indeed feminists are a joke. I remember that one time when Brie Larson ( the actress who plays Captain Marvel), got overly sensitive just because some male journalist smiled at her. And then she started spouting shit on twitter like "to live life as a woman, is to live life in defense", just because a male simply smiled at her.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Or just have better judgment and not **** psychos.

Yeah, and these ladies need to have better judgement and not wear such short skirts, amirite brah?! And if they insist on wearing short skirts they BEST not act in a way that turns the rape into a murder, cuz that death is on their hands then.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) This is such a lazy response, and so ironic, I'm going to let all the easy retorts slide.
2) Do you have a gizmo that can detect how psycho people are? You don't even know anyone until 6 months tbh. And casual hook-up on first dates is rising astronomically in younger generations.
3) Here's a shocker: People are good at hiding their feelings, and putting up a facade. You know who in general are particularly adept at putting up a facade, especially emotionally? Women.
4) Some people don't start out psychos. Things just turn bad, and they refuse to self-reflect and take responsibility. Imagine getting dumped, or feeling used, because the guy you liked only wanted to have sex with you and leave? What if he made it clear, and you agreed, but you thought you could change his mind? Now you're crying, pissed and hurt, and some people are calling you a whore. Buuuuut what if you say you were drunk and coerced? Now everyone is saying you got raped. You start getting attention and sympathy. It's an addicting feeling. You start believing your own story.

I just made that fourth point up on the spot, but it's not exactly mind-boggling to imagine. Why? Women are human. Those same emotions have run through me in different aspects. If guys had this sort of trump card, 100% they'd abuse it too. Maybe even more than woman do atm.

But saying don't f*ck psychos is like saying don't go near rapists. Super useless and impractical advice that contributes nothing to the problem facing the average person, and tbh, you should go to your room and reflect on your intellectual laziness.

I am a big believer in taking responsibility for your actions. I think you need to adapt to your environment. Therefore guys need to learn to very quickly vet a girl in a few minutes if they intend on casual sex. I also know I've exposed to the dark-side and most people, ESPECIALLY teenage boys aren't reading body language and watching for habits as they walk across the room to vet someone. But that shouldn't be a reason to get shit on.

It is not a lazy response, it is an accurate one. There are any number of people, even on this board, who have lots of casual sex, and the number of times this has happened to them is zero. But keep being afraid of women and sex.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Don't victim blame Adam

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, and these ladies need to have better judgement and not wear such short skirts, amirite brah?! And if they insist on wearing short skirts they BEST not act in a way that turns the rape into a murder, cuz that death is on their hands then.

Yeah, I am not the one you want to have this argument with, because I am on the record as stating that while no one deserves to be victimized, people have a responsibility to mitigate their risks.

And if you make bad choices that lead to bad consequences, hopefully you will learn to exercise better judgment, and make better choices in the future.

It's more common then people think and less common then misogynists would assert.

But ultimately it doesn't really matter. In the US we go off a system of innocence until proven guilty. If someone is to be accused of committing a crime, hearsay is not good enough to condemn that person. An argument must be presented, with evidence, and if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the individual is guilty then they should be left alone and be treated by society as if they're innocent.

Weighing in on the other discussion going on: there is literally nothing wrong with victim blaming. An intelligent mind can acknowledge multiple truths at the same time. If a girl is raped while walking home from work, a smart person can acknowledge that rape is bad, rapists are bad people and you should be able to walk anywhere at any time while butt naked and not have to worry about being assaulted, while simultaneously acknowledging that if you are a 5'3 110 pound woman and you choose to walk home by yourself in the middle of the night you're probably an idiot and what happened to you could have probably been prevented if you had taken precautions.

Victim blaming is only problematic when it's used as a smokescreen to obfuscate discussion about an important topic. I can acknowledge that a girl who walks through a sheisty neighborhood at night by herself and gets mugged is a retard, but I can not use her retardation to absolve the mugger of his crime. It's still a crime, it's still not okay and society still needs to have a dialogue on how we can make our environment safer for innocent (and sometimes retarded) people to live their lives.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
It's more common then people think and less common then misogynists would assert.

But ultimately it doesn't really matter. In the US we go off a system of innocence until proven guilty. If someone is to be accused of committing a crime, hearsay is not good enough to condemn that person. An argument must be presented, with evidence, and if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the individual is guilty then they should be left alone and be treated by society as if they're innocent.

Weighing in on the other discussion going on: there is literally nothing wrong with victim blaming. An intelligent mind can acknowledge multiple truths at the same time. If a girl is raped while walking home from work, a smart person can acknowledge that rape is bad, rapists are bad people and you should be able to walk anywhere at any time while butt naked and not have to worry about being assaulted, while simultaneously acknowledging that if you are a 5'3 110 pound woman and you choose to walk home by yourself in the middle of the night you're probably an idiot and what happened to you could have probably been prevented if you had taken precautions.

Victim blaming is only problematic when it's used as a smokescreen to obfuscate discussion about an important topic. I can acknowledge that a girl who walks through a sheisty neighborhood at night by herself and gets mugged is a retard, but I can not use her retardation to absolve the mugger of his crime. It's still a crime, it's still not okay and society still needs to have a dialogue on how we can make our environment safer for innocent (and sometimes retarded) people to live their lives.

I agree with this post and the underlined is a great method that we should all strive to achieve and which I, as a logical person, fully support, but in practice, for this particular crime, it is not the case. Not in the current climate.

And I think as a result, the worst type of people will attempt to use it to their advantage. The Kavanaugh appointment to me was particularly worrying.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is not a lazy response, it is an accurate one. There are any number of people, even on this board, who have lots of casual sex, and the number of times this has happened to them is zero. But keep being afraid of women and sex.

Ok, so elaborate on your response. You said “don’t sleep with psychos.”

How do you vet whether a potential partner is psycho, while also engaging in casual sex? The usual vetting like not booking up with an obvious methead or a chick with a forehead tattoo are obviously not a factor. I’m talking about women/men who look on the surface well balanced.

The last half of your post reveals your ignorance of even the most rudimentary understanding of statistics. I am not trying to be hostile here, but from a practical standpoint, you are contributing nothing to this conversation. You aren’t even raising interesting questions or ideas.

Just to clarify, I am trying to have an open discussion, because it’s sometbing any male should consider, and any ideas or views are welcome.

Looks like the voice actor of that Dragon Ball Broly movie was just accused, and summarily fired.

A poster commented it's funny how this came out, just after the movies success. I suppose it is... I'm not sure if that means it's a lie, or if it means the allegation itself was suppressed until the movie cycle finish's up, so it doesn't hurt the box office.

On the general topic, I keep waffling beteeen thinking some of these allegations are lies to hurt careers, and that every single one is true and things are far worse then people realize, and have been for a long time.

I'm leaning more towards the second one. What will people do when they think they won't get caught?