WW vs. Thor: pure h2h cage match

Started by Inhuman9 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
You lowball with the best of them but get no flack for it because you do it against the DC side.

Baseballs and bullets are two different things. No human can hit a bullet.

It takes 0.4 seconds for a 100mph to travel from the picture to the hitter. Human reactions can be as low as 0.2 seconds. A jab can be snapped out in less time than the time it takes for a 100mph fastball to travel to the hitter.

A bullet is a different story.

There were a few scenes in WW that showed her seeing bullets in slow motion. How else would she be able to perceive a bullet from point blank range easily?

Wonder woman is going to react faster than a normal human would because she is enhanced beyond a normal human.
So it would make sense that she would be able to react fast enough to block bullets similar way that a baseball player can hit a 100 mile per hour pitch without seeing it in slow motion.

What scenes are you talking about where she sees bullets in slow motion?
Don't say the scenes that where the director uses slow mo just for the action to look cool.
Because that is not Wonder woman seeing bullets in slow motion. The whole scene was slowed down for the purpose of the action looking cool or whatever.
Wonder woman's movements were also slow down along with everything else in that scene.

No he is right on that, she was seeing them, you could see her looking at them as they were coming in.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
No he is right on that, she was seeing them, you could see her looking at them as they were coming in.

But then it goes back to my original point. Baseball players cant see 100 mile-per-hour pitches in slow motion.
But, they can see the ball coming and know where to swing.
But again that does not mean they see the ball in slow motion. That means that they see the ball blurred , a white circle, or whatever, that is the extent of seeing that object coming at them.

Baseball players can see the ball coming in. 100mph fastballs are very rare and that's why they don't get hit, Slower ones they can see. I played baseball a lot, the most common phrase in baseball is "keep your eye on the ball."

But this isnt even about real life, Thor deflected laser beams but H1 being who is, is trying to say bullets are faster then lasers.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Baseball players can see the ball coming in. 100mph fastballs are very rare and that's why they don't get hit, Slower ones they can see. I played baseball a lot, the most common phrase in baseball is "keep your eye on the ball."

But this isnt even about real life, Thor deflected laser beams but H1 being who is, is trying to say bullets are faster then lasers.

I agree. But like I said there's a big difference from being able to see the ball coming, than being able to see the ball coming "in slow motion", like h1 is trying to claim.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Wonder woman is going to react faster than a normal human would because she is enhanced beyond a normal human.
So it would make sense that she would be able to react fast enough to block bullets similar way that a baseball player can hit a 100 mile per hour pitch without seeing it in slow motion.

What scenes are you talking about where she sees bullets in slow motion?
Don't say the scenes that where slow down just for the action to look cool.
Because that is not Wonder woman seen bullets in slow motion, that is the whole scene being slow down for the purpose of the action looking cool or whatever.

I gave you movie evidence that shows WW perceiving bullets in slow motion. Look at her eyes following the bullet. It appears that she is even confused to why time is appearing slower.

Seeing in slo motion basically means that she perceives objects moving SLOWER than humans do. Doesn't mean that time is actually slower.

When I first played baseball (little league) I couldn't perceive a 60 mph fastball. It was a complete blur to me. After months of training in batting cages and years of playing baseball, a 60mph faster (in high school) appeared to be frozen in time forever. Hell a 95 mph in college appeared slower than that initial 60mph.

Anyway you are arguing semantics (lowballing). If WW can perceive a bullet easily from 5ft away and respond to it then she can, with greater ease, perceive and respond to speeds far slower than a bullet.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I agree. But like I said there's a big difference from being able to see the ball coming, than being able to see the ball coming "in slow motion", like h1 is trying to claim.

Speedsters who can move fast in combat can see things in slo motion because they are operating that much faster in the moment then what they are reacting to. This is also common in Marvel with quicksilver, he sees things in slo mo.

Baseball players dont see in slow mo, because the ball isnt moving 100's of meters per second.

Originally posted by h1a8
I gave you movie evidence that shows WW perceiving bullets in slow motion.

Wait, where? I saw words but did I miss a link? confused1

Originally posted by h1a8
After months of training in batting cages and years of playing baseball, a 60mph faster (in high school) appeared to be frozen in time forever.

lul, sure thing fam wink1

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Speedsters who can move fast in combat can see things in slo motion because they are operating that much faster in the moment then what they are reacting to. This is also common in Marvel with quicksilver, he sees things in slo mo.

Baseball players dont see in slow mo, because the ball isnt moving 100's of meters per second.

Actually baseball players see a fastball much slower than a normal person. I'm a living witness to this.

Also it is common knowledge that speedsters see things slower than normal people.

Inhuman is lowballing to a crazy ass extreme.

He's basically saying that speedsters perceive bullets the same way humans do. Yet humans can't perceive them because they are too fast.

Originally posted by h1a8
Inhuman is lowballing to a crazy ass extreme.

He's basically saying that speedsters perceive bullets the same way humans do. Yet humans can't perceive them because they are too fast.

You can train yourself to focus and on the ball with years of training and making yourself aware of how pitchers throw the ball and know how to anticipate the ball, etc, etc. With years of training and experience , you would be able to anticipate and focus on the ball better than a person that has no experience hitting fast moving baseballs.
This has nothing to do with you thinking you are enhanced beyond human limits or you have learned to altered reality just because of training and having the ball frozen in time as you claim you do. (lel)

A super powered person like WW would be able to see fast moving objects way better than a human would be able to. And also react better than a human would.
Even if she could see the bullets coming at her, while a normal human cant, it still deosnt mean she is looking at the bullets suspended in time or crawling slowly towards her at a snails pace.
It means that she probably sees bullets thew same way a baseball player sees a ball coming at them. Baseball players can still see a 100 mile per hour ball. They can turn their heads to look at the ball whiz past them just fine. Again doesnt mean they see the ball suspended in time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually baseball players see a fastball much slower than a normal person. I'm a living witness to this.

Also it is common knowledge that speedsters see things slower than normal people.

Inhuman is lowballing to a crazy ass extreme.

He's basically saying that speedsters perceive bullets the same way humans do. Yet humans can't perceive them because they are too fast.

I have to disagree. I used to play table tennis, was varsity in highschool and won a few tournaments. I had a very solid defense, able to return majority of smashes sent my way despite the fact that smashes can send a ball hurtling at 80-100 fps.

Was it because I saw the ball in slow motion? Hell no. It was because my muscle memory and reflexes were fast (and trained) enough to put my hand in the rough location of where I thought the trajectory of the smash would land the ball.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually baseball players see a fastball much slower than a normal person. I'm a living witness to this.

Also it is common knowledge that speedsters see things slower than normal people.

Inhuman is lowballing to a crazy ass extreme.

He's basically saying that speedsters perceive bullets the same way humans do. Yet humans can't perceive them because they are too fast.

Again baseball players do not see in slow motion. No you are not a living witness to it.

I see that h1 is making things up again.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I have to disagree. I used to play table tennis, was varsity in highschool and won a few tournaments. I had a very solid defense, able to return majority of smashes sent my way despite the fact that smashes can send a ball hurtling at 80-100 fps.

Was it because I saw the ball in slow motion? Hell no. It was because my muscle memory and reflexes were fast (and trained) enough to put my hand in the rough location of where I thought the trajectory of the smash would land the ball.

What do you disagree with?
Bullets are significantly faster than a ping pong ball.
And in table tennis, one has more than 0.2 of a second to react to a smash.

Remember it's not about speed but time (which incorporates both speed and distance).

Originally posted by Inhuman
You can train yourself to focus and on the ball with years of training and making yourself aware of how pitchers throw the ball and know how to anticipate the ball, etc, etc. With years of training and experience , you would be able to anticipate and focus on the ball better than a person that has no experience hitting fast moving baseballs.
This has nothing to do with you thinking you are enhanced beyond human limits or you have learned to altered reality just because of training and having the ball frozen in time as you claim you do. (lel)

A super powered person like WW would be able to see fast moving objects way better than a human would be able to. And also react better than a human would.
Even if she could see the bullets coming at her, while a normal human cant, it still deosnt mean she is looking at the bullets suspended in time or crawling slowly towards her at a snails pace.
It means that she probably sees bullets thew same way a baseball player sees a ball coming at them. Baseball players can still see a 100 mile per hour ball. They can turn their heads to look at the ball whiz past them just fine. Again doesnt mean they see the ball suspended in time.

The movie clearly shows her following bullets in slow-mo.
And all speedsters see action at a much slower rate than humans do. That's a fact. And I already gave you a real life example.

It's irrelevant anyway as it doesn't change the fact that she would perceive anything Thor does easier than bullets.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Again baseball players do not see in slow motion. No you are not a living witness to it.

You can agree to disagree. I don't care.
Baseball players see a fastball moving slower than a normal human does.

"normal humans"

Baseball players are normal humans, you are really off the deep end now.

Again you have never witnessed a fastball going in slow mo, that is my point.

How have you never been banned for you next level trolling is my question.

H1 is super human apparently

Originally posted by Inhuman
H1 is super human apparently

Well, he is certainly "special".

Originally posted by h1a8
What do you disagree with?
Bullets are significantly faster than a ping pong ball.
And in table tennis, one has more than 0.2 of a second to react to a smash.

Remember it's not about speed but time (which incorporates both speed and distance).

The post I replied to was you specifically talking about baseball, not bullets. That's what I disagree with, that batters somehow see the baseball approaching in slow motion. Please try to keep up.

Though ping pong balls are not as fast as baseballs, they also travel less distance.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The post I replied to was you specifically talking about baseball, not bullets. That's what I disagree with, that batters somehow see the baseball approaching in slow motion. Please try to keep up.

Though ping pong balls are not as fast as baseballs, they also travel less distance.

h1 has never been able to keep track of his own argument or what standards he's currently using.

What about Thors star feat? Has that been discussed yet?