Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil👆
LOL at @philoImagine not understanding that DNA is composed of molecules called nucleotides. And that manipulating them would be child's play for Surfer....you know, since we've seen him do it already.
Now imagine comparing a nuke (really?) to the Power Cosmic and expecting to not be laughed at.
And you still have no answer for DDs adaptation ability simply being erased at its source.
But do keep posting irrelevant scans while you avoid showing any type of feat that would suggest he has ever resisted an attempt to depower/evolve him. You're doing exactly what I knew you would: placing DDs ability to adapt on a fanboy pedestal and making out to be more than what it is. A simple, biological function that can be unmade the same way it was made.
Seems like a pretty straight forward thing people keep glossing over.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LOL at @philoImagine not understanding that DNA is composed of molecules called nucleotides. And that manipulating them would be child's play for Surfer....you know, since we've seen him do it already.
Now imagine comparing a nuke (really?) to the Power Cosmic and expecting to not be laughed at.
And you still have no answer for DDs adaptation ability simply being erased at its source.
But do keep posting irrelevant scans while you avoid showing any type of feat that would suggest he has ever resisted an attempt to depower/evolve him. You're doing exactly what I knew you would: placing DDs ability to adapt on a fanboy pedestal and making out to be more than what it is. A simple, biological function that can be unmade the same way it was made.
If you can't quote that poster, it means they're right.
It's a security function implemented on this forum.
Originally posted by Galan007
Because you clearly do. Ergo the level of ridiculously overinflated reaching you're doing for Surfer here.
Not agreeing with you doesn't equal overinflating. I'm perfectly fine with you thinking that DD wins I just think it's a matter of opinion. If it were about that I'd be arguing that SS could do this for the majority. If it makes you feel better based on the evidence that you provided H/P DD would squash SS. I just think theres a slim chance 1/10 that SS could get a win.
Originally posted by Galan007
I presented MORE than enough evidence to depict the level of power Superman was touting against H/P Doomsday... And even with THAT much power he was still laughably inferior across the board.
I don't think so, I think in general it could be argued he was significantly more powerful but not vast not in terms of strength anyway.
Originally posted by Galan007
You're ignoring this slew of evidence in favor of assuming that Surfer will start doing shit here that he's NEVER done before to a being on DD's level. That's clearly your prerogative, so like I said: you do you. 👆
I'm not ignoring anything. You're ignoring Champion, you don't think that somebody who can muscle flex Thor, Hulk, classic Wonder Man, Namor, Doc Samson, Sasquatch and Collosus is capable of doing anything that H/P Doomsday did? Yeah I think he's stomping oiut Darkseid. Also I noticed that you haven't answered if that version of Superman is more powerful than Thanos. Even if Superman was doesn't change the fact that a weakened SS was able to match Thanos's energy levels. Which means in extreme circumstances SS > Thanos. No it doesn't mean SS = Thanos, it's the high showings, characters can far exceed their limitations 1% of the time in extreme circumstances.
Originally posted by Galan007
Could Celestial armor withstand an entropic blast, iyo(just so you're aware, this is far and away DC's most destructive force)..? Because given the type of things I've seen breach Celestial armor over the years, I'd go with a strong "no".
What exactly are you trying to prove here? So because Doomsday survived the entropy that means Doomsday > Celestial armour? Obviously on an average day Celestial armour > Doomsday. The point isn't that Thor could just walk up to DD and shatter his bones the point here is that every once in a while characters have high showings where they by far exceed what they normally can do.
Originally posted by Galan007
The goal post moving is hysterical. You literally JUST SAID that H/P Doomsday wasn't vastly superior to Superman in terms of STRENGTH:
Yeah I said that and I'm sticking to it to.
Originally posted by Galan007
As if their actual battle in the comic wasn't enough to show the difference between their respective levels of strength, I also provided an excerpt flat-out stating that MB Superman's STRONGEST PUNCH could only knock Doomsday down. Ergo there is a gargantuan difference between their strength levels.
Galan with all due respect no you didn't. If you want to believe that's what that excerpt showed you're entitled to that opinion but it's subjective.
Let's take a look at it again:
Originally posted by Galan007*And that's with the additional MotherBox amp.
It states that his strongest punch could only knock him down. Are you really trying to tell me that description couldn't apply to the difference in strength between a man and a woman? Of course it could would you say that the difference between a man and woman in strength is vast? I wouldn't. That's what the fight between Superman and DD looked like to me were you have one opponent who is significantly stronger than another but the weaker one can hold them off physically to a limited degree but if he goes toe-to-toe he'll get destroyed.
Originally posted by Galan007
...But now you're trying to pretend like you were really just referencing Superman's ability to CUT Doomsday, lol? Good lord. Pick a stance and stick with it, ffs.
What on earth are you talking about? What do you think I'm talking about did you think I was arguing that Superman could wrestle or punch him out? Please show me where I said that.
I'm confused here I think I've been arguing from the very beginning about cutting his head off.
Originally posted by Deadline
By the way we are aware that HP Doomsday was temporarily wounded by an energy sword? Sure he healed from it but I don't think that would have happened so quickly if Superman had chopped Doomsday's head off.
Here's me conceding later on that you might be right about Superman being able to chop his head off due to duarablity of bones.
Originally posted by Deadline
You do realise I'm also refering to Superman flying at high speed with his energy sword in his hand going for his neck right? If you mean like he did in the comic where he is stationery and is just using his arms then yea. How about you post scans of where Superman uses his speed and try to argue that Superman couldn't chop his head of flying at that speed?
It looks to me like I've constantly been talking about cutting his head off from the very beginning. The point here is this.....you are stating that the difference in power level between Superman and DD is vast since his bones are more durable he won't be able to cut his head off. I'm saying you're exaggerating, I'm saying that DD is more powerful but it's not so vast that he can't cut his head off. If you want to argue that the difference in power level and durability of bones is enough to stop a stationery Superman from cutting his head off then fine. However there is no justification for saying that the difference in power level between Superman and DD is so vast that Superman can't cut his head off with an energy sword flying at FTL speed.
Originally posted by DeadlineEntropy itself didn't destroy DD's bones, which is Galan's point. Superman has no hope of exceeding that.
It looks to me like I've constantly been talking about cutting his head off from the very beginning. The point here is this.....you are stating that the difference in power level between Superman and DD is vast since his bones are more durable he won't be able to cut his head off. I'm saying you're exaggerating, I'm saying that DD is more powerful but it's not so vast that he can't cut his head off. [b]If you want to argue that the difference in power level and durability of bones is enough to stop a stationery Superman from cutting his head off then fine. However there is no justification for saying that the difference in power level between Superman and DD is so vast that Superman can't cut his head off with an energy sword flying at FTL speed. [/B]
Which part of this is your antenna not receiving?
No offense, but debating with you is an exercise in futility. I have proven/substantiated absolutely every point I have sought to make, with an abundance of on panel evidence. However, you keep contorting/ignoring said evidence in order to suit...whatever it is you're trying to argue at any given time. Not going to indulge that any further.
You can pull an Anvil now, and go the "concession accepted" route with me if you want. Don't really care, because this 'discussion' has spiraled into absolute ridiculousness on ALL fronts. I can't be bothered to continue with it any longer.
You do you. 👆
Just saw this.
eventhough H/P DD was physically superior to Superman he wasn't vastly supeior in terms of strength.
It states that his strongest punch could only knock him down. Are you really trying to tell me that description couldn't apply to the difference in strength between a man and a woman? Of course it could would you say that the difference between a man and woman in strength is vast? I wouldn't.
And people say evolution exists.
Darwin is a moron.
You literally just talked to him about this, and he posted the scans themselves.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=16874565#post16874565
Are you taking placebo again?
What you mean THIS...
Originally posted by Galan007Don't know why you think causing such a minor injury equates to Superman(nevermind Surfer) being able to fully decapitate DD..? To do that he'd have to get through bone as well... And it should go without saying, but DD's bone structure is obviously FAR more durable than his flesh:
https://i.imgur.com/e8bHr4v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q68AaQp.jpg
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Seriously., I hope not.
Exactly it is that and I explained that.
Originally posted by DeadlineIt seems to me maybe your logic is that since a vastly more powerful being didn't destroy DD's body in one whole go then it means it requires Superman to produce that beings level of power to do it. It doesn't because the being wasn't using anywhere near it's full power it was just casualy using it's power which means that it's entirely possible for Superman using all his power to damage a small area of his body. Y'know an all out Thor has been able to crack Celestial armour right? Saying Thor isn't in this thread would be missing the point.
Then refute it with a logical argument instead of responding with insults.
Originally posted by Deadline'Entropy' doesn't have a 'maximum' and 'minimum' power. You're thinking of Imperiex charging his 'kamehameha' when the attack itself is the literal death of the Universe. You should focus your chi to think better.
Exactly it is that and I explained that.Then refute it with a logical argument instead of responding with insults.
