KMC Comic Book Tiers (v2.0)

For good reason. Solaris is logically well beyond trans.

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Originally posted by Galan007
*Tweaked the OP Rules a bit. When you guys get a chance, give it a look.

Originally posted by Galan007
For good reason. Solaris is logically well beyond trans.

Nope. That might be a Tier we can discuss adding once the existing Tiers List has been sorted out, and the proposals have dwindled down.

my mistake of overlooking the rules, sorry

Blue Lantern is only able to use his offensive power when a GL is present, when I mention saint walker I was thinking blue lanterns being good in team battles paring up with other lanterns, because of (like darksaint mentioned) their ability to amp and heal

also I don't know why I listed Abra Kadabra for LH, the guy is at least MH, not powerful like dr strange level but still a competant mage his transmutation is ridiculous, turning superman into puppet, turning Jay Garrick into turtle, turning people into cards, turns window into a mouth,
other conjurations like creates lightning or fire blast, or something really random like traps someone in bondage gear, or create racetrack and grandstands with audiences

lol so many funny magic abilities. dude acts like a stage magician but is actually low level reality warper.
Also was his ability still 64th century tech based or changed into pure magic?

Originally posted by MrMind
my mistake of overlooking the rules, sorry

Originally posted by MrMind
Blue Lantern is only able to use his offensive power when a GL is present, when I mention saint walker I was thinking blue lanterns being good in team battles paring up with other lanterns, because of (like darksaint mentioned) their ability to amp and heal

Originally posted by MrMind
also I don't know why I listed Abra Kadabra for LH, the guy is at least MH, not powerful like dr strange level but still a competant mage his transmutation is ridiculous, turning superman into puppet, turning Jay Garrick into turtle, turning people into cards, turns window into a mouth,
other conjurations like creates lightning or fire blast, or something really random like traps someone in bondage gear, or create racetrack and grandstands with audiences

lol so many funny magic abilities. dude acts like a stage magician but is actually low level reality warper.
Also was his ability still 64th century tech based or changed into pure magic?

But yeah, MH would be an absolute minimum for him.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nope. That might be a Tier we can discuss adding once the existing Tiers List has been sorted out, and the proposals have dwindled down.

Star Sapphire (say, Carol) - mid herald
Saint Walker - mid herald
Abra Kadabra - at least mid-herald, imo.
Silver Banshee - high meta
Daken - LM
Sunfire - high meta

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i'm okay with most though i could see star sapphire at lh as easily as mh and i could legit see walker at hm. honestly, what has he really done to make us think he could take ironman for a majority...? he may have more overall power, but his effectiveness in battle is....not awesome imo. /shrug

i can agree with the others. 👆

Galan, is it okay if I were to make a thread which votes for getting a Skyfather list, or should I just ask it here?

As mentioned, that will not even be considered until everything else is sorted out with the existing list.

IOW, don't make the thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
As mentioned, that will not even be considered until everything else is sorted out with the existing list.

IOW, don't make the thread.

I am just so excited to get a list in, I want to see where Solaris May be going. :3

Star Sapphire (say, Carol) - mid herald
Saint Walker - low herald (this weakling)
Daken - LM
Sunfire - high meta

*Added the following characters to the list:

Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris)- MH
Saint Walker- LH
Abra Kadabra- MH
Silver Banshee- HM
Daken- LM
Sunfire- HM

Who's next?

Imus Champion mid-street
Moses Magnum mid-meta (?)
Lady Bullseye mid-street
The Saint of Killers - thoughts?

Lady Bullseye MS
The Saint of Killers - should be off the list, he's way way up there but haxx character like this is difficult to judge in neutral universe. I mean what level of power/how immortal do you have to be in marvel or dc to not get killed by his gun, who knows

Lord Mar-vell- Trans

Alright, so these are the current proposals(there are room for a few more):

Imus Champion mid-street
Moses Magnum mid-meta (?)
Lady Bullseye mid-street
The Saint of Killers - thoughts?
Lord Mar-vell- Trans

Regarding SoK: it's probably best to leave him off the list... Not because I think he's too powerful for it, but because it's nearly impossible to gauge him against most other noteworthy characters. Clearly the God/Satan of his reality are infinitely less powerful then the Supreme Beings we're accustomed to in other companies. We saw his guns(which were forged from the swords of his reality's Angel of Death) insta-kill God/Satan, but then fail to kill a random Angel and Cassidy(a common Vampire), cuz... Reasons? Aside from that, SoK's got some degree of superhuman strength/durability(see him no-selling a nuke), but that's really it. I wouldn't even know where to start with him.

And agree with Mar-vell for Trans.

I think we should start the skyfather tier soon (not right now of course)

You guys have built the current list very complete, detailed and refined. All the important characters are covered. This tier list is already better than the one they have on VSBattles

there are so many b-listers to z-listers comic book characters out there it's impossible to cover most of them.

The majority of characters used in battles and tournaments are covered here though imo. There are of course room to add for more. But to add too many will only make each tier look bloated. and that's not good because the important ones will be overlooked when people look at this list.

also there are over 20 thousand dc characters and over 50 thousand marvel, this process will never end lol.

So right now I think to expand on more tiers, than adding names in existing tiers, is the way to go. then this will look very organized and layered. the beauty of it is you can always go back and add more or make changes

I wouldn't be opposed to creating a new "Skyfather" Tier, if there was enough genuine interest in establishing it... It would probably have a "> Thanos, and < average Galactus" limit if we ended up actually making it.

But again, that would only come after the existing List is sorted, and only if enough people were on board with the idea.

Originally posted by Galan007

Imus Champion mid-street
Moses Magnum mid-meta (?)
Lady Bullseye mid-street
The Saint of Killers - thoughts?
Lord Mar-vell- Trans

imus and moses? lol been a while since i've seen those names but from i recall those tiers sound about right. not sure the extent of magnum's seismic power.

i wouldn't include sok either and mar-vell for trans for sure.

what about quake (daisy?): hm?
coulson? ms? ls?
leader? mm? hm? (he's always been a disappointment...)
baron mordo? hm? lh?
what about he enigma force or captain universe? too variable?
doctor voodoo? hm? has he reached lh?
mojo? hm?

Originally posted by Galan007

Imus Champion mid-street
Moses Magnum mid-meta (?)
Lady Bullseye mid-street
The Saint of Killers - thoughts?
Lord Mar-vell- Trans

imus and moses? lol been a while since i've seen those names but from what i recall those tiers sound about right. not sure the extent of magnum's seismic power.

i wouldn't include sok either and mar-vell for trans for sure.

what about quake (daisy?): hm?
coulson? ms? ls?
leader? mm? hm? (he's always been a disappointment...)
baron mordo? hm? lh?
what about he enigma force or captain universe? too variable?
doctor voodoo? hm? has he reached lh?
mojo? hm?