*Added the following to the List:
Imus Champion- MS
Moses Magnum- MM
Lady Bullseye- MS
Lord Mar-vell- Trans
The new proposals:
Originally posted by leonidas
what about quake (daisy?): hm?
coulson? ms? ls?
leader? mm? hm? (he's always been a disappointment...)
baron mordo? hm? lh?
what about he enigma force or captain universe? too variable?
doctor voodoo? hm? has he reached lh?
mojo? hm?Mysterio- HS
Originally posted by leonidas
what about quake (daisy?): hm?
coulson? ms? ls?
leader? mm? hm? (he's always been a disappointment...)
baron mordo? hm? lh?
what about he enigma force or captain universe? too variable?
doctor voodoo? hm? has he reached lh?
mojo? hm?
Daisy would be a HM
Coulso - LS
Leader - LM
Mysterio - HS (with CIS on, he always seemed a loser).
Can't speak for the rest.
I have a request
What is the opinion of this committee (is there one) about splitting. tier up
Currently, tier 4, Trans (Sub Skyfather) has a pretty big gap between the strongest and weakest T4 member. I would like to split the tier up in to “Low Trans” and “High Trans”. We would be able to add a few overperforming members from the T3/High Herald to the new Low Trans tier.
Originally posted by leonidasThx. 👆
btw nice job on the redesign galan. the tiers thread looks really good. 👆
Originally posted by SmurphSmurph! You should participate in this thread more. 👆
Quake (Daisy) for HM 👆
Originally posted by xJLxKingHow so? At the end of the day, Trans is still Trans, and Herald is still Herald.
We would be able to add a few overperforming members from the T3/High Herald to the new Low Trans tier.
Any HH's who consistently operate outside their 'weight class' as a norm should be placed in the general Trans tier anyway. That's why Superman was bumped up, for example. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007Yeah, will do - didn't even realize we were taking another crack at the tiers, lol. Brings some life back into this forum.
Smurph! You should participate in this thread more. 👆
I know there are limits on characters to discuss and I don't want to open cans of worms that have already been debated ad nauseam, but I wanted to throw a couple questions out there:
- I saw Nate Grey --> HH was discussed. Why not move him? My rationale: I see FP Cable/Nate Grey as a good dividing line between the tiers. IMO, FP/God Cable is firmly at the upper end of MH, and Nate is a solid step above him. A bit like BRB/Thor.
- Black Widow should be HS (currently at MS).
- Bane (w Venom) to LM, at least.
- What about Talon? LM cause of healing factor?
*Added the following characters to the List:
Quake (Daisy Johnson)- HM
Baron Mordo- HM
Doctor Voodoo- HM
Jack O'Lantern- HS
Agent Coulson- LS
Leader- LM
Mysterio- HS
Mojo- HM
Originally posted by SmurphI think a few of these have come up recently, but I'm open to discussing them again(maybe some opinions have changed..?)
Yeah, will do - didn't even realize we were taking another crack at the tiers, lol. Brings some life back into this forum.I know there are limits on characters to discuss and I don't want to open cans of worms that have already been debated ad nauseam, but I wanted to throw a couple questions out there:
- I saw Nate Grey --> HH was discussed. Why not move him? My rationale: I see FP Cable/Nate Grey as a good dividing line between the tiers. IMO, FP/God Cable is firmly at the upper end of MH, and Nate is a solid step above him. A bit like BRB/Thor.
- Black Widow should be HS (currently at MS).
- Bane (w Venom) to LM, at least.
- What about Talon? LM cause of healing factor?
**So with that being said, here are the new set of proposals:
Captain Nazi- HM
Lord Satanus- Trans
Asmodel- HH
Nate Grey- HH
Black Widow- HS
Bane (w Venom)- LM
Talon- LM
My take:
Agree
Captain Nazi- HM
Lord Satanus- Trans
Asmodel- HH
Bane (w Venom)- LM
Disagree
Nate Grey- HH
Black Widow- HS
Talon- LM
Reasons:
- I don't see Nate/Cable as dividing lines between tiers, since neither of them are in the upper one. The same reason John Stewart/Guy & Baz/Jessica aren't dividing - because they all fit at mid. There's too many inside the tier that are around that area of power [besides the two aforementioned lanterns and Beta Ray]: J'onn, Graviton, Loki [we'll see, won't we? hehe], Blue Marvel, Morg, Captain Atom, Count Nefaria etc.
- Black Widow isn't a tier above the likes of Tim Drake [w/equipment], Punisher, Deadshot, Moonknight and whatnot.
- just having superhuman stats [i.e. strength/healing and whatnot] doesn't make you low meta, as we define the tier. The Talons would get beat by many in the high street