Originally posted by BackFire
Yep. That’s exactly my point. There are a lot of people with conservative values, many of whom live in the suburbs across the country who hate trump but still are conservatives. Lot of these people voted Biden and then Republican down ticket.And as far as independents go, I haven’t actually heard anything about them. Did Trump lose independents this time? I assume he did because the bottom line is independents decide elections.
Yes, independents were a factor:
Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah. I think the idea of Georgia totallly flipping blue is really unlikely. Dems will be very lucky to win one of the seats imo. The state is still conservative. Biden winning it was more about conservatives not likening Trump. There were something like 50,000 people who voted for Biden who also voted for the two Republican senators. Shows that it was more a rejection of trump than conservative principles.
Many voters also turned-out specifically to vote for Trump in a presidential election, and also voted for Republicans down-ticket. Without Trump on the ballot in January, those voters have no reason to show up and cast a ballot for those two senators in the run-off.
Originally posted by dadudemonI wonder what we can point to for stocks to not "do well"
But that's not what I said. About a week out when the stocks tanked, I said Trump's position to win is vicarious, now. Trump needed both the coronavirus bill and stocks to do well to have a solid chance at winning.Early during the pandemic, around March, Trump would have won by a landslide.
Seeing as you don't know what a synonym is.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Many voters also turned-out specifically to vote for Trump in a presidential election, and also voted for Republicans down-ticket. Without Trump on the ballot in January, those voters have no reason to show up and cast a ballot for those two senators in the run-off.
You make a good point. If Trump is too deflated from losing to campaign hard for those two senators it could be what dems need to win there.
Originally posted by Blakemore
5 minutes.
Well that was fast and I'm not surprised, as accountability is seemingly not in these peoples' character makeup.
But it was more of rhetorical question, as Trumpers have been blaming Trump becoming the POTUS on Democrats/the Left since 2016. It's just funnier now that they're still doing it and have now voted for Trump not once, but twice, but they somehow don't own him/it.
Anyways, more setbacks for Trump today. Aside from Georgia certifying their election, two Michigan republicans who were invited to the white house to meet with Trump met with him and said they were given no reason to overturn the results of their state and plan to vote with the popular vote. It was largely assumed and hinted at that Trump wanted them to vote against certifying the state and to instill friendly electors to give him the electoral votes of the state despite the fact that he lost it.
Expect more such behavior from him next week in other states.
Also more lawsuits were rejected across the country.
Originally posted by BackFire
Anyways, more setbacks for Trump today. Aside from Georgia certifying their election, two Michigan republicans who were invited to the white house to meet with Trump met with him and said they were given no reason to overturn the results of their state and plan to vote with the popular vote. It was largely assumed and hinted at that Trump wanted them to vote against certifying the state and to instill friendly electors to give him the electoral votes of the state despite the fact that he lost it.Expect more such behavior from him next week in other states.
Also more lawsuits were rejected across the country.
"It was largely assumed and hinted at that Trump wanted them to vote against certifying the state and to instill friendly electors to give him the electoral votes of the state despite the fact that he lost it." -you
Has this been attempted before by another sitting President?
Originally posted by BackFire
Anyways, more setbacks for Trump today. Aside from Georgia certifying their election, two Michigan republicans who were invited to the white house to meet with Trump met with him and said they were given no reason to overturn the results of their state and plan to vote with the popular vote. It was largely assumed and hinted at that Trump wanted them to vote against certifying the state and to instill friendly electors to give him the electoral votes of the state despite the fact that he lost it.Expect more such behavior from him next week in other states.
Also more lawsuits were rejected across the country.
Smells like severe desperation. When he lost Georgia, that should have been his moment to concede because, beyond all shadow of a doubt, he lost.
How long ago was that, now?
Originally posted by BackFirehe has truly lost the plot and doesn't want a transition. Your nation has to punish him when he is possibly removed. He is trying to game your rule of law.
Well Georgia was certified yesterday so technically he lost Georgia yesterday. But it was called like a week ago or something.I imagine if he’s going to concede it will be next week as more key states certify the election. But I don’t really expect anything like that.
Originally posted by BackFire
Well Georgia was certified yesterday so technically he lost Georgia yesterday. But it was called like a week ago or something.I imagine if he’s going to concede it will be next week as more key states certify the election. But I don’t really expect anything like that.
Yes, it was definitely over a week ago. That's what I'm talking about. That's the moment he should have formally conceded.