Originally posted by Newjak
It's the conservatives standing in the way because they care more about the slogan and less about the people asking for help......Like not sure how to make that anymore clear to you.
The conservatives didn't make you guys bad at getting your message across. That is a self inflicted wound.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In before "If black lives really matter, what about black-on-black crime?"
I think that's a really big issue though. Some of the problems in black communities are terrible.
Unfortunately, there are systematic issues that has read to a ridiculously high single motherhood rate (70%+ etc.).
We can thank Joe Biden with his crime bills for incarcerating so many young black men.
Originally posted by Newjak
It's the conservatives standing in the way because they care more about the slogan and less about the people asking for help......Like not sure how to make that anymore clear to you.
Thanks for proving the point:
Originally posted by Surtur
You see it with BLM too. It invites the question(that I feel is valid) of "what about all the black lives black people take? Why don't they care about those lives?".HCA. Hold Cops Accountable. A much better slogan, less open to attack and less divisive.
Originally posted by Surtur
You see it with BLM too. It invites the question(that I feel is valid) of "what about all the black lives black people take? Why don't they care about those lives?".HCA. Hold Cops Accountable. A much better slogan, less open to attack and less divisive.
HYG again: Stop accusing the Black Lives Matter movement of ignoring so-called “black-on-black” crime
This article is an extension of a post I made on Facebook two years ago. It amazes me that much of what I said then, I am repeating now. Each time there is discussion of police violence against unarmed blacks the same tired narrative plays out, attempting to deflect attention from the issue at hand. Stop comparing apples to oranges. -snip
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Thanks for proving the point:
While Surt did absolutely prove Newjak's point there, hilariously so, I'd argue that it ultimately comes down to them not caring, as police on Black violence has been around long before the "Black Lives Matter" slogan came into existence and they didn't care before as they don't care now.
The "BLM" slogan just gave them an easy excuse to do their same thing. Do you think if it became "All Lives Matter" as they wanted, that their views towards police on Black violence would change?
Originally posted by RobtardYeah like I said. I don't think most them really care about the slogan. It's just a way to deflect from it so they don't have to help the people.
While Surt did absolutely prove Newjak's point there, hilariously so, I'd argue that it ultimately comes down to them not caring as police on Black violence has been around long before the "Black Lives Matter" slogan came into existence and they didn't care before as they don't care now.The "BLM" slogan just gave them an easy excuse. Do you think if it became "All Lives Matter" as they wanted, that their views towards police on Black violence would change?
Originally posted by Robtard
While Surt did absolutely prove Newjak's point there, hilariously so, I'd argue that it ultimately comes down to them not caring, as police on Black violence has been around long before the "Black Lives Matter" slogan came into existence and they didn't care before as they don't care now.The "BLM" slogan just gave them an easy excuse to do their same thing. Do you think if it became "All Lives Matter" as they wanted, that their views towards police on Black violence would change?
The point really wasn't proven. And is this all you guys have now? Pretend win's and "Reeeee!"?
Originally posted by Surtur
The point really wasn't proven. And is this all you guys have now? Pretend win's and "Reeeee!"?
His point absolutely was proven correct, as Newjak's point was: "It's the conservatives standing in the way because they care more about the slogan and less about the people asking for help"
And you went on to babble about the slogan and how it should be changed to be less "divisive", when in reality it's not really about the slogan, but the people being harmed and it's not even divisive slogan to begin with.
You won't be able to accept these facts.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think that's a really big issue though. Some of the problems in black communities are terrible.Unfortunately, there are systematic issues that has read to a ridiculously high single motherhood rate (70%+ etc.).
We can thank Joe Biden with his crime bills for incarcerating so many young black men.
Thor sucks though👆
Originally posted by Robtard
His point absolutely was proven correct, as Newjak's point was: "It's the conservatives standing in the way because they care more about the slogan and less about the people asking for help"And you went on to babble about the slogan and how it should be changed to be less "divisive", when in reality it's not really about the slogan, but the people being harmed and it's not even divisive slogan to begin with.
You won't be able to accept these facts.
No it wasn't proven and it is a divisive slogan. You guys just can't accept the fact it was a bad slogan. Trying to defend it is amusing, as is the pretend victory. Whenever you guys mess up you always try to blame it on conservatives.
Just own the fact it was a bad call.
Originally posted by Surtur
No it wasn't proven and it is a divisive slogan. You guys just can't accept the fact it was a bad slogan. Trying to defend it is amusing, as is the pretend victory. Whenever you guys mess up you always try to blame it on conservatives.Just own the fact it was a bad call.
It was proven, your opinion that it wasn't is just that.
Why is it a bad slogan?
The possibility of there being a better option does not mean something else is inherently bad.
Originally posted by Robtard
It was proven, your opinion that it wasn't is just that.Why is it a bad slogan?
The possibility of there being a better option does not mean something else is inherently bad.
Notice how criticizing the slogan distracts from actually addressing the needs of the people asking for help? It is almost like it is a way to change the subject.