2020 Presidential Election Discussion

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Notice how criticizing the slogan distracts from actually addressing the needs of the people asking for help? It is almost like it is a way to change the subject.
Bingo! 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
It was proven, your opinion that it wasn't is just that.

It wasn't. Don't die on this hill over your opinion 👆

Why is it a bad slogan?

The possibility of there being a better option does not mean something else is inherently bad.

It needlessly divides people and requires an explanation.

Make no mistake I hope you guys are stubborn enough to just keep on using it. I'm just pointing out how Obama was spot on. If you disagree with him it is cool.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Notice how criticizing the slogan distracts from actually addressing the needs of the people asking for help? It is almost like it is a way to change the subject.

Oh, I see his tactic.

Still decided to entertain his deflection out of curiosity.

Originally posted by Surtur
It wasn't. Don't die on this hill over your opinion 👆

It needlessly divides people and requires an explanation.

Make no mistake I hope you guys are stubborn enough to just keep on using it. I'm just pointing out how Obama was spot on. If you disagree with him it is cool.

You responded with a "no you!", so I'll leave you to that.

How does "Black Lives Matter" divide though? Like actually divide, not the failed "It says Black people are more important!" (it doesn't) tactic and similar.

Obama was talking about the "Defund the Police" slogan, not BLM. Right? So you're being silly and distracting again.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, I see his tactic.

Still decided to entertain his deflection out of curiosity.

Originally posted by Robtard
You responded with a "no you!", so I'll leave you to that.

How does "Black Lives Matter" divide though? Like actually divide, not the failed "It says Black people are more important!" (it doesn't) tactic and similar.

Obama was talking about the "Defund the Police" slogan, not BLM. Right? So you're being silly and distracting again.

I'm using reality. Best to move on.

It focuses on one race. "HCA" would be better. HCA=Hold Cops Accountable

Yes and I assumed we were discussing that slogan, but we can discuss BLM too. I used it as an example, but you knew that.

Do you agree or disagree with Obama?

BLM divides because it focuses on the white and police killings of blacks and ignores the much greater issues in the Black community like family breakdown.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm using reality. Best to move on.

It focuses on one race. "HCA" would be better. HCA=Hold Cops Accountable

Yes and I assumed we were discussing that slogan, but we can discuss BLM too. I used it as an example, but you knew that.

Do you agree or disagree with Obama?

Maybe because it's about police on Black violence, which is a problem? While your "All Lives Matter" which you've used before is a very nice sentiment, but glosses over the issue of police on Black violence. The HCA isn't horrible, but isn't really focused.

All the post you responded too were about BLM and it was clearly noted as such. So you're just being a clown again.

Obama has a solid point because people see something like "Defund the Police" and kneejerk into thinking people want the police to completely go away, which was never the point. It really isn't the best slogan.

Originally posted by wxyz
BLM divides because it focuses on the white and police killings of blacks and ignores the much greater issues in the Black community like family breakdown.

It doesn't divide. You can take on separate issues with separate causes.

It's like you're saying a foundation for 'Lung Cancer' is doing harm by ignoring that there are other cancers out there. You can have more than one cause at a time.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe because it's about police on Black violence, which is a problem? While your "All Lives Matter" which you've used before is a very nice sentiment, but glosses over the issue of police on Black violence. The HCA isn't horrible, but again, you'd not care about the actual issue.

HCA is better than BLM. It's divisive to make it just about black lives. And this would save black lives anyways.

All the post you responded too were about BLM and it was clearly noted as such. So you're just being a clown again.

Nope, this ain't the hill to die on either.

Obama has a solid point because people see something like "Defund the Police" and kneejerk into thinking people want the police to completely go away, which was never the point. It really isn't the best slogan.

It also didn't help that you had progressives writing OP-ED's for the NYT saying "Yeah we really mean defund the cops".

Originally posted by Surtur
HCA is better than BLM. It's divisive to make it just about black lives. And this would save black lives anyways.

Nope, this ain't the hill to die on either.

It also didn't help that you had progressives writing OP-ED's for the NYT saying "Yeah we really mean defund the cops".

So that's really your issue, that BLM is about "Black" lives. Figured as much.

Oh no, the toothless surt threats. Whatever will I do.

That's fair enough, there are stupid people on both sides.

Originally posted by Robtard
So that's really your issue, that BLM is about "Black" lives. Figured as much.

Quit projecting your racism onto others. I'm telling you why it's divisive. It focuses on a single group, but you could get more done for that group if you changed the messaging.

Oh no, the toothless surt threats. Whatever will I do.

Nobody is threatening you, I'm telling you it's dumb to try to argue this stupid shit.

That's fair enough, there are stupid people on both sides.

Indeed there are.

Another "no you!" retort, I'll leave you to that again then.

Originally posted by Robtard
Another "no you!" retort, I'll leave you to that again then.

No valid response and hypocrisy to boot? Yep, best move on 👆

You did a "No you!" and you once again handwaved that the very purpose of BLM is about police on Black violence, not some mass blanketing grievance about the police. So yeah, you're done here. Finished.

Originally posted by Robtard
You did a "No you!" and you once again handwaved that the very purpose of BLM is about police on Black violence, not some mass blanketing grievance about the police. So yeah, you're done here. Finished.

Yes, you are done agreed.

Originally posted by Robtard
You did a "No you!" and you once again handwaved that the very purpose of BLM is about police on Black violence, not some mass blanketing grievance about the police. So yeah, you're done here. Finished.
But of course Surt being Surt he will never see he is done like a thanksgiving Turkey left in the oven an hour too long.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
But of course Surt being Surt he will never see he is done like a thanksgiving Turkey left in the oven an hour too long.

I don't he can help himself at t his point.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't he can help himself at t his point.
Nope, a Whirly prediction coming, January will be particularly bad for Trumpers and the GOP.