Captain Marvel vs Superman

Started by BrolyBlack34 pages

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No where in MoS was it stated that the World Engine was a black hole, sorry ;'(

Superman loses, just don't let that affect you, child.

Correct it was stated that ramming clarks ship into the world engine would create a black hole, not that the world engine was a black hole

Do you understand the difference?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No where in MoS was it stated that the World Engine was a black hole, sorry ;'(

Superman loses, just don't let that affect you, child.

She would be a statue to Superman. It's impossible for him to lose if that's the case.

Originally posted by h1a8
She would be a statue to Superman. It's impossible for him to lose if that's the case.

Light isn't a statue to superman sweetie.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Correct it was stated that ramming clarks ship into the world engine would create a black hole, not that the world engine was a black hole

Do you understand the difference?

A very insignificant black hole.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Light isn't a statue to superman sweetie.

A very insignificant black hole.

You have to prove
1. CM can travel light speed in an atmosphere
2. She has the reflexes and maneuverability travel at light speed in the size of the battlefield.
3. She can reach light speed instantly while being a statue.

Originally posted by h1a8
You have to prove
1. CM can travel light speed in an atmosphere
2. She has the reflexes and maneuverability travel at light speed in the size of the battlefield.
3. She can reach light speed instantly while being a statue.

She doesn't need to travel at the speed of light to make Superman unable to react.

Even if she traveled at 1/10 the speed pf light, superman LOSES.

Originally posted by h1a8
She would be a statue to Superman. It's impossible for him to lose if that's the case.

How fast are you claiming Superman to be?

Scale 1 = Normal human
1,000 = Light speed

Wasnt shen getting tagged by Kree even after she powered up?

Originally posted by Silent Master
How fast are you claiming Superman to be?

Scale 1 = Normal human
1,000 = Light speed

Several people have analyzed JL superman to be a mach 17. The highest estimation I've found to be was mach 40.

Nope. He was moving faster than Flash.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Nope. He was moving faster than Flash.

Irrelevant.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How fast are you claiming Superman to be?

Scale 1 = Normal human
1,000 = Light speed


Lets assume this scale is a ratio scale, and not a linear scale.
Top speed is irrelevant here. It's all about how much distance someone can cover in the first 0.2 seconds after moving from rest.

A handgun bullet would be about 35-40
Superman is faster than that.
So if Superman was a 40 then CM would be a statue the first 0.2 seconds of the fight.

CM has human level reactions and perceptions. That means a bullet could be shot at her from battle distance and hit her before she made a single thought.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lets assume this scale is a ratio scale, and not a linear scale.
Top speed is irrelevant here. It's all about how much distance someone can cover in the first 0.2 seconds after moving from rest.

A handgun bullet would be about 35-40
Superman is faster than that.
So if Superman was a 40 then CM would be a statue the first 0.2 seconds of the fight.

CM has human level reactions and perceptions. That means a bullet could be shot at her from battle distance and hit her before she made a single thought.

And?

Originally posted by h1a8
Lets assume this scale is a ratio scale, and not a linear scale.
Top speed is irrelevant here. It's all about how much distance someone can cover in the first 0.2 seconds after moving from rest.

A handgun bullet would be about 35-40
Superman is faster than that.
So if Superman was a 40 then CM would be a statue the first 0.2 seconds of the fight.

CM has human level reactions and perceptions. That means a bullet could be shot at her from battle distance and hit her before she made a single thought.

So, your stance is that Superman is slightly faster than a bullet?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, your stance is that Superman is slightly faster than a bullet?
My stance is that Superman will perceive CM as a statue. Anything else I'm not interested in atm.

Originally posted by h1a8
My stance is that Superman will perceive CM as a statue. Anything else I'm not interested in atm.

I thought you were good at math, surely someone of your advanced intelligence will be able to calculate how fast he is.

Originally posted by h1a8
My stance is that Superman will perceive CM as a statue. Anything else I'm not interested in atm.

As long as Captain Marvel moves bellow Supe's speed. But CM is wayyyy faster than Superman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I thought you were good at math, surely someone of your advanced intelligence will be able to calculate how fast he is.

Irrelevant to the thread.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As long as Captain Marvel moves bellow Supe's speed. But CM is wayyyy faster than Superman.

CM won't move at all. She will be a statue the moment the bell rings.

IOW, the math is far beyond your ability.

Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant to the thread.

CM won't move at all. She will be a statue the moment the bell rings.

No, she will be a statue as long as she is bellow Superman's speed. Once she outspeeds Superman, he will be the statue.

Now, can Superman defeat Carol before she speeds up? Don't think so.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No, she will be a statue as long as she is bellow Superman's speed. Once she outspeeds Superman, he will be the statue.

Now, can Superman defeat Carol before she speeds up? Don't think so.

How can a statue get to do anything if you don't let them?
Even if Superman allows her to buildup speed just for shits and giggles then she wouldn't go very fast in the battlefield because
1. She has no feats of being able to react in less than 0.2 seconds
2. She has no feats of going faster than him in an atmosphere.

In summary, Superman won't ever allow her to not be a statue.

If you defeat that argument then you have to defeat the two reasons why she would not go very fast in a battlefield.