Originally posted by Genii96
Carol can actually statue Superman. Her missile feat is so impressive because not only did she easily react and stop the giant missile coming down with speeds enough to go from low orbit to cloud level in less than 10 seconds, but she threw the missile away fast enough that the other missiles couldn't catch up depsite being fired roughly 5 seconds prior
Holy shit, and I thought I had accounted for all of Carol's feats.
Yet that one I missed. Good job!
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Superman reflexes doesn’t mean Superman level reflexes. Superman isn’t human.
At the beginning of CM, we see the Acuser bombarding a planet just like they were to bombard Earth at the end of the movie.
The missiles took seconds to hit the surface. As Genii already proved, CM would have to react in less time.
If we do some math, I bet CM can not only rival Superman's feats but outmatch them 😂
Man, Genii indeed came to cast new light into this thread.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
The last sequence of Carol vs the Kree armada was uber-impressive, some of the best feats we've seen in modern superhero movies, and flying through the black hole (if that counts) is better than anything anyone in the MCU or DCEU has done barring maybe Thor's neutron star Stormbreaker forging (not trying to start a fight over which feat is better, just simply saying that Carol and Thor have the two highest end and most out there sci-fi durability feats from a comic movie).That being said, Superman's combat feats post-Justice League are insanely high. All the talk of "well, Superman is fast, but he doesn't fight so fast people are in slow motion." Null and void after Justice League. The dude took down the whole League and then beat a big bad in Steppenwolf that literally soloed all earthly mythological figures, the Amazons, the Atlanteans, and a Green Lantern. And Supes didn't just beat, but stomped Step so bad that Step couldn't even do a thing about it. Practically a statue to Kal.
Compare this to Carol who struggled - and yes, overcame pretty easily once she got used to her powers - Korath and the Kree guard or whoever their names were. Supes would've killed them all in a second or less.
Combat-wise, Superman takes it. Carol will have trouble touching him, let alone knocking him out. With the black hole feat, ya Carol has the exotic durability and space travel speed feats on him in spades.
Well said
Originally posted by John Murdoch
The last sequence of Carol vs the Kree armada was uber-impressive, some of the best feats we've seen in modern superhero movies, and flying through the black hole (if that counts) is better than anything anyone in the MCU or DCEU has done barring maybe Thor's neutron star Stormbreaker forging (not trying to start a fight over which feat is better, just simply saying that Carol and Thor have the two highest end and most out there sci-fi durability feats from a comic movie).That being said, Superman's combat feats post-Justice League are insanely high. All the talk of "well, Superman is fast, but he doesn't fight so fast people are in slow motion." Null and void after Justice League. The dude took down the whole League and then beat a big bad in Steppenwolf that literally soloed all earthly mythological figures, the Amazons, the Atlanteans, and a Green Lantern. And Supes didn't just beat, but stomped Step so bad that Step couldn't even do a thing about it. Practically a statue to Kal.
Compare this to Carol who struggled - and yes, overcame pretty easily once she got used to her powers - Korath and the Kree guard or whoever their names were. Supes would've killed them all in a second or less.
Combat-wise, Superman takes it. Carol will have trouble touching him, let alone knocking him out. With the black hole feat, ya Carol has the exotic durability and space travel speed feats on him in spades.
1. It's not proven that Carol flew through the event horizon of a black hole.
2. Black holes are composed of TWO parts, the singularity (the size of an atom) and the event horizon (30km to millions of km in radius). The escape velocity is the speed of light. That means if you enter the event horizon going faster than light then you can escape a black hole.
3. The force differential on her body (e.g. from toe to ankle) is very small in the outer half of an event horizon of many black holes. This means that even spacecraft made by humans will not be spaghettified at those distances from the singularity. So it's not an insane durability feat but just a decent one.
4. This post also proves that we take the highest end feats to represent the character in a forum fight. So Froth take a look.
Originally posted by Genii96
Carol can actually statue Superman. Her missile feat is so impressive because not only did she easily react and stop the giant missile coming down with speeds enough to go from low orbit to cloud level in less than 10 seconds, but she threw the missile away fast enough that the other missiles couldn't catch up depsite being fired roughly 5 seconds prior
Wtf are you taking about? Reactions are about time, not speed. As the camera shows both her and the missiles approaching each other, it takes more than 5 seconds to converge. In other words, the missiles are moving very slowly in comparison to her.
That's like saying that I can statue Superman if I can go light speed towards mercury from the Earth when I have more than 5 minutes to react.
Another proof that we take a characters highest showings.
Originally posted by h1a8
4. This post also proves that we take the highest end feats to represent the character in a forum fight. So Froth take a look.
Why? Is there any contradictory evidence to her tanking a black hole?
Or Is it not in character for her to use her abilities at full power?
Explain please.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why? Is there any contradictory evidence to her tanking a black hole?Or Is it not in character for her to use her abilities at full power?
Explain please.
I'm all for taking the high feats. My reply is mainly referring to Thor's star feat. Froth doesn't believe we do such things. Especially when he has done it countless times
Originally posted by h1a8
Wtf are you taking about? Reactions are about time, not speed. As the camera shows both her and the missiles approaching each other, it takes more than 5 seconds to converge. In other words, the missiles are moving very slowly in comparison to her.That's like saying that I can statue Superman if I can go light speed towards mercury from the Earth when I have more than 5 minutes to react.
Another proof that we take a characters highest showings.
What the **** are you talking about now H1?
The missiles were shown to be able to reach planetary surface in terms of seconds.
Carol moving against the missiles, means that, in terms of perspective, the missiles appear to be faster.
As Genii proved, if the missiles take 5s to reach planetary surface, that means that Carol's scene is all happening in less than those 5s of time. Because, the missiles had already been deployed when she reached them.
Yet, the actual scene isn't 5s. The scene is much larger, which means that Carol's reflexes are superhuman (her perception of time is much slower to the human counterpart).
Originally posted by John Murdoch
The last sequence of Carol vs the Kree armada was uber-impressive, some of the best feats we've seen in modern superhero movies, and flying through the black hole (if that counts) is better than anything anyone in the MCU or DCEU has done barring maybe Thor's neutron star Stormbreaker forging (not trying to start a fight over which feat is better, just simply saying that Carol and Thor have the two highest end and most out there sci-fi durability feats from a comic movie).That being said, Superman's combat feats post-Justice League are insanely high. All the talk of "well, Superman is fast, but he doesn't fight so fast people are in slow motion." Null and void after Justice League. The dude took down the whole League and then beat a big bad in Steppenwolf that literally soloed all earthly mythological figures, the Amazons, the Atlanteans, and a Green Lantern. And Supes didn't just beat, but stomped Step so bad that Step couldn't even do a thing about it. Practically a statue to Kal.
Compare this to Carol who struggled - and yes, overcame pretty easily once she got used to her powers - Korath and the Kree guard or whoever their names were. Supes would've killed them all in a second or less.
Combat-wise, Superman takes it. Carol will have trouble touching him, let alone knocking him out. With the black hole feat, ya Carol has the exotic durability and space travel speed feats on him in spades.
Bingo.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm all for taking the high feats. My reply is mainly referring to Thor's star feat. Froth doesn't believe we do such things. Especially when he has done it countless times
We use high feats and lower feats both.
We accept that Wonder Woman can deflect bullets, but we also dont ignore her not being able to defeat the likes of Steppenwolf, which is too big a thing to just brush aside.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Steppenwolf can catch missiles after they are fired.
So can Abomination 😬
Originally posted by NemeBroMore to the point, a character's speed feats are not ignored just because they fight characters who don't have those feats.
Steppenwolf not being blitzed does not imply that CM won't be.
Marvel characters are slow. Deal with it. 👆
So her clearly not being capable of blitzing a guy who was no faster than the Hulk, means she will have no problem blitzing a much faster opponent?
Youre gonna have to do better than that buddy. We dont pick and choose what showings we want to acknowledge. That just leads to trolling. Hence why that tactic is used by all the trolls on the forum.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm all for taking the high feats. My reply is mainly referring to Thor's star feat. Froth doesn't believe we do such things. Especially when he has done it countless times
Nope, that's not what I said. I said we don't disregard all of a character's feats in lieu of only their highest feat.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Nope, that's not what I said. I said we don't disregard all of a character's feats in lieu of only their highest feat.
By members stating ONLY a character's highest feats then they are automatically doing such things. And did you read a few posts I replied to showing members doing such things (like Thor's star feat)?