Originally posted by Robtard
Since you brought it up to do a silly pearl-clutch, I’m still waiting for “gay marriage” to ruin both the sanctity of marriage and my own marriage, I was assured it would happen by people like you.
Nope no pearl clutch, just pointing out grimey weasels like you said it would end at two men marrying each other.
Has it ended there?
Originally posted by Robtard
You are. What does marriage equality have to do this? Nothing.
What part of my post did you specifically not comprehend? Quote it and I'll explain.
Right after you explain the hypocrisy in this thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=659766&pagenumber=2
Originally posted by dadudemon
Please, point me in the direction where it is okay to go into details about sexuality and gender identity with 5 year olds. 🙂Gotta lot of 5 year olds to talk about sex and cross dressing a lot, huh? Appointments lined up for weeks?
Speaking of strawman arguments, when did it become okay to expose children to concepts that grown adults thought about, discussed, and discovered about their sexualities. Probably 5-7 is too young to be talking about why Joe likes to put his privates in Bob's butt.
I guess you think it's okay to talk sex to children by putting it into a format that mirrors common children's books, right? 🙂
By all means, show us where anyone is discussing sex with 5-year-olds.
Originally posted by Surturlet me be clear I'm not blaming gay marriage. I agree with gay marriage. I think it was just one stepping stone in a long progression that started a long time ago. I just think that people should try to understand why these kinds of cultural shifts naturally make people uncomfortable instead of always just demonizing that discomfort as hate or insecurity.
*looks around, see's a world where drag queens are reading books to children and grown ass adults are allowed to mutilate themselves and call themselves a different gender. See's a world where some children are emotionally abused and encouraged to choose a gender at a young age. See's a world where children are allowed to dress up as drag queens and perform at a strip club*Lol remember during the battle for gay marriage when they said it would stop there, it wouldn't go beyond that?
Surtur remembers.
Originally posted by mike brown
Do you think I am insecure about my status as a human rather than a dinosaur, or maybe do you think what people are worried about is that kids are highly impressionable and have very active imaginations.
If you are afraid that a child can be convinced that he is a different gender than he knows he is, then you are admitting you are not secure about your own gender. That your gender is not fixed and immutable, and that you can be convinced to change your internal sense of self if someone utters the right words to you.
Originally posted by mike brown
It's funny cause the LGBT advocates keep treating worries about disintegrating standards and norms as a slippery slope fallacy, yet the slippery slope is real and manifesting before us. 10-15 years ago when people were debating gay marriage (which I support) conservatives would come in with shit like next people will be bringing in drag Queens to lecture schoolchildren and we would've scoffed at that as a slippery slope. Now it's reality.
Literally no one argued that legalizing same-sex marriage would lead to drag queens reading story books to children. The two are not even related.
Originally posted by mike brown
The trans movement causes people to draw analogies like what if I choose to identify as a different race or species... And we still scoffed and consider that a crazy leap. Yet it's already happening. The path we are on is to overturn old norms piece by piece... And it shouldn't be so surprising that makes some people uncomfortable.
No, prejudice leads people to draw those analogies in response to the existence of trans people. That is like saying that racists are not responsible for their racism, it is the fault of ethnic minorities for having the temerity to not be white.
Originally posted by Surtur
What part of my post did you specifically not comprehend? Quote it and I'll explain.
You're doing a silly slippery slope, when marriage equality has nothing to do with this issue here.
A ridiculous "First they wanted men to marry men; now we allow child rape!" style of argument. Hyperbole there mine.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I have no problems with trans folks reading to kids in a school for as long as 1) Parents were informed beforehand and 2) That the event was optional and parents who don't wish to expose their kids to this can simply opt out.
What I basically said.
And knowing US schools (as I have kids in school), parent's are informed of any guest readers or visitors to the class as the school needs to protect itself from potential lawsuits.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEI don't think of gender as an immutable or fixed entity.. it's just a congregation of attributes and characteristics that are influenced by everything from biology to culture and peer pressure. So yes, I think kids are impressionable. And I think sometimes they believe crazy shit, like they are part dinosaur, but society doesn't validate that as part of their identity so they grow out of it.
If you are afraid that a child can be convinced that he is a different gender than he knows he is, then you are admitting you are not secure about your own gender. That your gender is not fixed and immutable, and that you can be convinced to change your internal sense of self if someone utters the right words to you.
Literally no one argued that legalizing same-sex marriage would lead to drag queens reading story books to children. The two are not even related.Oh, the two are absolutely related. They're part of the same general trend of social progress which started with things like women's suffrage and sexual liberation. I'm not saying somebody literally made that exact slippery slope argument, but they made similar ones that were no more outlandish than this would have been 15 years ago.
, prejudice leads people to draw those analogies in response to the existence of trans people. That is like saying that racists are not responsible for their racism, it is the fault of ethnic minorities for having the temerity to not be white.I don't see the prejudice in the comparison. Maybe you just aren't woke enough to see that otherkin are no less normal than trans people.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Then I don't really see the problem. If parents want to have their kids listen to a trans guy in a school, then they should be allowed to. If that is the case, I don't see what all the hubbub is about, so I'm moving on./shrug
Not to mention that in several of the clips, there's parents sitting next to or holding their children while the Drag Queen reads something like The Very Hungry Caterpillar to them.
Then again, that book's about a caterpillar that goes through the metamorphosis of becoming a beautiful butterfly, so that's obviously code for turning kids into "gay trannies". Leftist at it again.
Originally posted by mike brown
I don't think of gender as an immutable or fixed entity.. it's just a congregation of attributes and characteristics that are influenced by everything from biology to culture and peer pressure. So yes, I think kids are impressionable. And I think sometimes they believe crazy shit, like they are part dinosaur, but society doesn't validate that as part of their identity so they grow out of it.
Oh, the two are absolutely related. They're part of the same general trend of social progress which started with things like women's suffrage and sexual liberation. I'm not saying somebody literally made that exact slippery slope argument, but they made similar ones that were no more outlandish than this would have been 15 years ago.
I don't see the prejudice in the comparison. Maybe you just aren't woke enough to see that otherkin are no less normal than trans people.
Good post.
I still don’t understand the benefit of having a drag queen reading stories to kids at school. Pointless.