Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
black bolt has cosmic awareness which he would use to alert his team
lol the team also have tp resistance so let's see what happen to braniac or hel when creel get his hands on both of them or hela absorb their soul's
Awareness doesn’t stop you from being drained.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Black Adam literally flies through his head. I don't think Rachel Grey, Moondragon, Xavier et al can regenerate from a Black Adam sized hole in their head, can they? Let alone multiple Shazam bolts?
Rachel possibly too. She is, by common opponents, superior to Teen Jean. And Jean completely rebuilt her body psychically.
https://postimg.cc/gwkb5K6h
https://postimg.cc/KRBbgj21
https://postimg.cc/HrtCBNjH
No guarantees of course, but maybe. Doesn't affect this match of course though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Inferior telepaths, like those two who mindraped Vulcan lol. Can you even name two feats from them??
Nightside, not so much. Maybe the new one will do more though.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
.Regardless of What you misinterpreting lol,he overcame a Telepathic assault..yeah..OVERCAME..from Two telepaths while Fighting others..and this is Young Vulcan..not.even Emperor Vulcan(more experienced)..
Additionally, Vulcan was amped during that time with the X-Men. Rachel separates Darwin, who merged with Vulcan, bestowing the powers of his forner squad in the process. Rachel got in his head just fine when she split them apart too.
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Vulcan then flew away, and it seemed like Emma could have mind****ed him had he stayed.
I'm just not seeimg his tp defense. Especially since he needed Oracle in every subsequent arc, where he had no amp and didn't ambush.
Originally posted by Deadline
By the way Doom can summoun an army of mindless ones but bear in mind they are immune to TP because....they don't have minds. Heres some of their showingshttps://imgur.com/a/3DUpNSj
https://i.imgur.com/sMCIjTZ.jpg?1Took this team to make them flee.
https://i.imgur.com/RSn1cu4.jpg?1Dr Strange can't hypnotize them
https://i.imgur.com/zpGscza.jpg?1
Three in 1 can't control them
Although, Emma has affected robots before. 😖hifty:
https://postimg.cc/mtgVnSpF
https://postimg.cc/SJ1VbzH1
Originally posted by Deadline
By the way Doom can summoun an army of mindless ones but bear in mind they are immune to TP because....they don't have minds. Heres some of their showingshttps://imgur.com/a/3DUpNSj
https://i.imgur.com/sMCIjTZ.jpg?1Took this team to make them flee.
https://i.imgur.com/RSn1cu4.jpg?1Dr Strange can't hypnotize them
https://i.imgur.com/zpGscza.jpg?1
Three in 1 can't control them
Although, Emma has interfaced with machines before. 😖hifty:
https://postimg.cc/mtgVnSpF
https://postimg.cc/SJ1VbzH1
Originally posted by StyleTime
That happened right before he became Emporer, and he didn't overcome them through mental defense.Additionally, Vulcan was amped during that time with the X-Men. Rachel separates Darwin, who merged with Vulcan, bestowing the powers of his forner squad in the process. Rachel got in his head just fine when she split them apart too.
https://postimg.cc/CRj0QYQ1
https://postimg.cc/qNf0wgQSVulcan then flew away, and it seemed like Emma could have mind****ed him had he stayed.
I'm just not seeimg his tp defense. Especially since he needed Oracle in every subsequent arc, where he had no amp and didn't ambush.
This is a better strategy, assuming he could do it quickly enough. Comics are pretty consistent that having no mind is the best telepathy defense.
Although, Emma has affected robots before. 😖hifty:
https://postimg.cc/mtgVnSpF
https://postimg.cc/SJ1VbzH1
really really not seeing it?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Xavier might.
https://postimg.cc/image/bjvrivom3/
https://postimg.cc/image/4gnw39qwb/Rachel possibly too. She is, by common opponents, superior to Teen Jean. And Jean completely rebuilt her body psychically.
https://postimg.cc/gwkb5K6h
https://postimg.cc/KRBbgj21
https://postimg.cc/HrtCBNjHNo guarantees of course, but maybe. Doesn't affect this match of course though.
Oracle is about the only other Guardsman worth anything. She sometimes is pretty threatening, punking an earlyTeen Jean for example. Other times, the Cuckoos bend her over.
Nightside, not so much. Maybe the new one will do more though.
Oracle didn't punk Teen Jean. One thing about Jean is, she may put on front to gauge the situation, but she ALWAYS has another plan in place to flip the tide. Teen Jean was confused as to why she was being kidnapped so she let her guard down and let them put her on trial so she understood why this was happening to her. As soon as the trial was over and the guard escorted her out, she knocked out pretty much the entire imperial guard on her own (minus Oracle & Gladiator because they weren't there). Then she went toe to toe with Gladiator and knocked this nigga on his tail TWICE! And he has gone up with all kind of heavy hitters. Oracle even tried to intervene after the first time he got knocked on his butt and talk to TJ in her mind space, but TJ forced her out and went after Gladiator again.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
apocalypse is for telepathic defense if you would read x-men he makes it very difficult for telepaths he can as i have shown redirect6 telepathic attacks and has negated the telepathy of beings far above the people you mentioned
Despero or Brainiac would crush Apocalypse in TP, though.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Despero or Brainiac would crush Apocalypse in TP, though.
You sure that Despero is > Xavier. Brainiac sounds dangerous though, how did they beat him?
Originally posted by StyleTime
This is a better strategy, as comics are pretty consistent that having no mind is the best telepathy defense.Although, Emma has interfaced with machines before. 😖hifty:
https://postimg.cc/mtgVnSpF
https://postimg.cc/SJ1VbzH1
Not sure what your point is. A machine isn't a mindless ones, for examples machines have electrcity that makes it work so to a lesser degree does the human body. There is actually some similarity between how a CPU works and how a brain works they both use electrical signals to convey information.
Also in Marvel it seems that psionic energy is just a form of electromagnetic energy. Magneto has also been able to use his magentic powers to effect TP.
Originally posted by Deadline
Not sure what your point is. A machine isn't a mindless ones, for examples machines have electrcity that makes it work so to a lesser degree does the human body. There is actually some similarity between how a CPU works and how a brain works they both use electrical signals to convey information.Also in Marvel it seems that psionic energy is just a form of electromagnetic energy. Magneto has also been able to use his magentic powers to effect TP.
Mindless Ones....a nice rich source of energy for Parasite.
Not to mention:
http://i.imgur.com/wLcC5Wb.jpg
H'El teleported Kara from Earth, to the Sun, and back again. And was doing it instantly.
Plus Raven etc.
As for Despero being > Xavier, I wouldn't say that.
I WOULD say that Despero is >> ....what's her name? Nightside? And Oracle? Yeah. And THOSE two managed to get into Vulcan, imagine what Despero could do.
As for EM energy.....imagine if DC had.....a lightning user...a BLACK lightning user....
But surely he has his hands full with Vulcan!
But Vulcan is being mind-controlled by Despero.
So now, the TPers on Marvel's side have to contend with Vulcan AND BL. Whilst Parasite is draining, maybe. Or H'El is sending them to the Sun.
Or Luthor is sending them through time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mindless Ones....a nice rich source of energy for Parasite.Not to mention:
http://i.imgur.com/wLcC5Wb.jpg
H'El teleported Kara from Earth, to the Sun, and back again. And was doing it instantly.
Plus Raven etc.
As for Despero being > Xavier, I wouldn't say that.
I WOULD say that Despero is >> ....what's her name? Nightside? And Oracle? Yeah. And THOSE two managed to get into Vulcan, imagine what Despero could do.
As for EM energy.....imagine if DC had.....a lightning user...a BLACK lightning user....
But surely he has his hands full with Vulcan!
But Vulcan is being mind-controlled by Despero.
So now, the TPers on Marvel's side have to contend with Vulcan AND BL. Whilst Parasite is draining, maybe. Or H'El is sending them to the Sun.
Or Luthor is sending them through time.
can you show current luthor doing any of those?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mindless Ones....a nice rich source of energy for Parasite.
That's up for debate because they're magical creatures can Parasite absorb magic? Also bare in mind that they don't need to engage him physicaly they can fire optic blasts which are probably magic in nature.
You also pointed out that Parasite has a lmiit to how much he can absorb and he has touch them.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Parasite LITERALLY explaining how his powers work. By touch.What was the starting distance again? Lol.
First of all Parasite is not going to be able to absorb alll this:
In other words thats what it took to defeat them. Bare in mind I showed scans of a group of Mindless ones defeating this team in seconds.
Note that Ares, Captain Marvel and Wonder Man are there. Extremis Iron Man wasn't there but we can assume if he was he would have been defeated also. Parasite will be quickly overwhelmed and will not be able to absorb them all. Bare in mind when you say his powers work by touch I think you mean if somebody is punching him in the back of the head he's not absorbing them, he has to touch them with his hand.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not to mention:http://i.imgur.com/wLcC5Wb.jpg
H'El teleported Kara from Earth, to the Sun, and back again. And was doing it instantly.
Plus Raven etc.
Ok good point but I don't think he's going to start off like that. This seems to me like the Flash FTL argument. It's a viable option but he's not going to use it straight away and those characters who can create forcefields would have done it by then. Can't comment on Raven.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As for Despero being > Xavier, I wouldn't say that.I WOULD say that Despero is >> ....what's her name? Nightside? And Oracle? Yeah. And THOSE two managed to get into Vulcan, imagine what Despero could do.
As for EM energy.....imagine if DC had.....a lightning user...a BLACK lightning user....
But surely he has his hands full with Vulcan!
But Vulcan is being mind-controlled by Despero.
So now, the TPers on Marvel's side have to contend with Vulcan AND BL. Whilst Parasite is draining, maybe. Or H'El is sending them to the Sun.
Or Luthor is sending them through time.
Nah Parasite is done for he will be quickly overwhelmed and so will the weaker members of the team. BL gone. Starfire, gone. Oceanmaster gone. Superboy gone. Mon el, gone.
You're also assuming that BL is gonna link up with Vulcan straight away they've never met each other and they're not team mates. So they most likely will fight indivdualy but BL won't be around long enough to do that.
You're also forgetting that not every one is going to be mindcontrolled. I'm saying Doom won't because he's consistently shown to have strong will and is now a contender for sorcerer supreme. Hela obvioulsy. Female Thor won't because male Thor has shruged off mind control from Phoenix possessed Emma easily and female Thor is supposed to be more powerful. Apocalypse because he's shown > Xavier in willpower.
There is a grey area with Nova and Sersi. Nova is connected to a supercomputer called the Worldmind which analyzes attacks it will know that Despero is attempting to control him but wether it will be able to do something I'm not sure.
Sersi can't just manipulate cosmic energy but has strong psionic abilities.
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http://i.imgur.com/Ch4HmDX.jpg
Somebody is going to know that Despero is using mind control and he's going to be first priority to be taken out. I think Hela will go for him, also bare in mind that Doom was able to seriously stun Sentry with one incantation, this was uner Bendis and it seems Bendis wrote him to be subskyfather level.
Dunno how they're gonna deal with Luthor maybe show us what he can do.
EDIT: I'm also willing to gamble that Beta Ray Bill could resist Despero in the sense that he similar to Thor in powerset and concept and could do what Thor did with Emma. Really hope that Hyperion could to but....
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
really really not seeing it?
We already saw her affect him just fine when she separated Darwin from him, removing his amp. I posted this above.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Oracle didn't punk Teen Jean. One thing about Jean is, she may put on front to gauge the situation, but she ALWAYS has another plan in place to flip the tide. Teen Jean was confused as to why she was being kidnapped so she let her guard down and let them put her on trial so she understood why this was happening to her. As soon as the trial was over and the guard escorted her out, she knocked out pretty much the entire imperial guard on her own (minus Oracle & Gladiator because they weren't there). Then she went toe to toe with Gladiator and knocked this nigga on his tail TWICE! And he has gone up with all kind of heavy hitters. Oracle even tried to intervene after the first time he got knocked on his butt and talk to TJ in her mind space, but TJ forced her out and went after Gladiator again.
Originally posted by Deadline
Not sure what your point is. A machine isn't a mindless ones, for examples machines have electrcity that makes it work so to a lesser degree does the human body. There is actually some similarity between how a CPU works and how a brain works they both use electrical signals to convey information.Also in Marvel it seems that psionic energy is just a form of electromagnetic energy. Magneto has also been able to use his magentic powers to effect TP.
It's not usually depicted that way.
Originally posted by StyleTimeIt was a joke, hence the shifty eyes.
It's not usually depicted that way.
Yeah I suspected that.
EDIT: Not sure if the whole thing has been shown but this looks like TP resistance to me.
didn't want to join this debating since i'm not familiar with marvel,but i must say parasite indeed implied he could absorb magic,like in new krypton tie-in,he trying to absorbing general lane's magical satellite's source or trying to(at least been tempted wtih) absorbing zatara's magical power
parasite trying to access and absoring magical satellite's source power
https://i.imgur.com/cmTDSRk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fwtjVAB.jpg
tempted by zatara's magical power and trying to drain him
https://i.imgur.com/OP3WukG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4qykNSw.jpg
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
didn't want to join this debating since i'm not familiar with marvel,but i must say parasite indeed implied he could absorb magic,like in new krypton tie-in,he trying to absorbing general lane's magical satellite's source or trying to(at least been tempted wtih) absorbing zatara's magical power
parasite trying to access and absoring magical satellite's source power
https://i.imgur.com/cmTDSRk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fwtjVAB.jpg
tempted by zatara's magical power and trying to drain him
https://i.imgur.com/OP3WukG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4qykNSw.jpg
Yea but what version of Parasite is it? As far as I'm aware the nu-52 Parasite is different.
