Christchurch NZ Terror Attacks

Started by Astner12 pages

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That is a logical fallacy. You are inferring a positive conclusion from a negative premise.

No because I'm addressing the implication statement and the content of the statement itself.

@astner,

It seems like you just want to argue nonsense for the sake of it.

As far as my not watching the video comment, sure, I could have worded it better and if you asked what I meant initially, I would have gladly explained that I was strictly talking about me personally, but instead you went on a tirade about people watching snuff films out of "respect" for the dead.

Originally posted by Robtard
@astner,

It seems like you just want to argue nonsense for the sake of it.

As far as my not watching the video comment, sure, I could have worded it better and if you asked what I meant initially, I would have gladly explained that I was strictly talking about me personally, but instead you went on a tirade about people watching snuff films out of "respect" for the dead.

rightist derailment Rob.

Originally posted by Robtard
It seems like you just want to argue nonsense for the sake of it.

This is a debate forum, if you're not here because you enjoy debates then you're wasting your time.

Originally posted by Robtard
As far as my not watching the video comment, sure, I could have worded it better and if you asked what I meant initially, I would have gladly explained that I was strictly talking about me personally,

No, if you didn't watch it because you didn't have the stomach for it then you wouldn't imply that people who did enjoyed murder.

Originally posted by Robtard
but instead you went on a tirade about people watching snuff films out of "respect" for the dead.

An article about how 50 people were massacred is never going to be as personal as footage of the actual event, and consequently it's not going to have the same impact.

Debates yes, trivial nonsense not so much.

We're back to you being upset because of my preferences in not watching something.

Whatever you need is fine, I'm cool with not watching a snuff vid.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
rightist derailment Rob.

Probably

I feel like watching stuff like that ****s with you and desensitizes you to the idea of bloodshed more than anything else. The normal human reaction to watching a torture video or something is to be disgusted and turn it off.

But because you're seeing it in video form instead of in person there's the the possibility for detachment where you can watch it without feeling the appropriate amount of disgust. So you can become desensitized to gruesome images in this way.

I remember I used to watch cartel videos of beheadings and shit like that and I could stomach it pretty well. Then one time I saw this video of atrocities by the Saddam Hussein regime.. including torture videos and the like... And I just felt sick and regretted watching it.

So yeah I don't watch stuff like this anymore and I don't believe there is anything worthwhile to gain from doing so.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Thank God Surter is here to remind us all that Islamic terrorism is a thing. I was about to assert that all white men are genetically predispositioned toward evil before he stepped in and corrected the record.

You seem mad kid. Calm yourself.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That is a logical fallacy. You are inferring a positive conclusion from a negative premise.

That's not a logical fallacy. Logical constructs used to make conclusions by negating a premise is called "modus ponens."

Another form is modus tollens.

And you can use arguments to demonstrate contradictions in the conclusions, if you'd like, such as reductio ad absurdum.

The burden is on you to demonstrate an argument, which is usually "reductio ad absurdum", if you feel his argument is wrong in this particular example.

Also, the specific logical argument he is using is logical complement or negation.

Not all claims of "that's a logical fallacy" are actual logical fallacies.

Originally posted by Robtard
@astner,

It seems like you just want to argue nonsense for the sake of it.

As far as my not watching the video comment, sure, I could have worded it better and if you asked what I meant initially, I would have gladly explained that I was strictly talking about me personally, but instead you went on a tirade about people watching snuff films out of "respect" for the dead.

This is fair. I think the argument should be done between you two because you admitted you could have worded it better due to the implication (which Astner brought up) from your statement.

So there's really nothing to argue about, here.

Originally posted by Robtard
Debates yes, trivial nonsense not so much.

It takes two to tango, and you're not letting this go.

Originally posted by Robtard
We're back to you being upset because of my preferences in not watching something.

Again, I don't have a problem with you not watching it. My problem was your demonization of people who did.

Originally posted by mike brown
I feel like watching stuff like that ****s with you and desensitizes you to the idea of bloodshed more than anything else. The normal human reaction to watching a torture video or something is to be disgusted and turn it off.

But because you're seeing it in video form instead of in person there's the the possibility for detachment where you can watch it without feeling the appropriate amount of disgust. So you can become desensitized to gruesome images in this way.

I remember I used to watch cartel videos of beheadings and shit like that and I could stomach it pretty well. Then one time I saw this video of atrocities by the Saddam Hussein regime.. including torture videos and the like... And I just felt sick and regretted watching it.

So yeah I don't watch stuff like this anymore and I don't believe there is anything worthwhile to gain from doing so.


Inquisitive people interested in a crime are looking for two things, evidence and juridical hearings. And people don't enjoy it, that's why it's called "stomaching" because you're holding yourself back from hurling up.

Originally posted by mike brown
I feel like watching stuff like that ****s with you and desensitizes you to the idea of bloodshed more than anything else. The normal human reaction to watching a torture video or something is to be disgusted and turn it off.

But because you're seeing it in video form instead of in person there's the the possibility for detachment where you can watch it without feeling the appropriate amount of disgust. So you can become desensitized to gruesome images in this way.

I remember I used to watch cartel videos of beheadings and shit like that and I could stomach it pretty well. Then one time I saw this video of atrocities by the Saddam Hussein regime.. including torture videos and the like... And I just felt sick and regretted watching it.

So yeah I don't watch stuff like this anymore and I don't believe there is anything worthwhile to gain from doing so.

👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is fair. I think the argument should be done between you two because you admitted you could have worded it better due to the implication (which Astner brought up) from your statement.

So there's really nothing to argue about, here.

One would think.

Originally posted by mike brown
I feel like watching stuff like that ****s with you and desensitizes you to the idea of bloodshed more than anything else. The normal human reaction to watching a torture video or something is to be disgusted and turn it off.

But because you're seeing it in video form instead of in person there's the the possibility for detachment where you can watch it without feeling the appropriate amount of disgust. So you can become desensitized to gruesome images in this way.

I remember I used to watch cartel videos of beheadings and shit like that and I could stomach it pretty well. Then one time I saw this video of atrocities by the Saddam Hussein regime.. including torture videos and the like... And I just felt sick and regretted watching it.

So yeah I don't watch stuff like this anymore and I don't believe there is anything worthwhile to gain from doing so.

Pretty much.

I watched that Jihadist beheading the USSR soldier in Afghanistan long ago, initially though it was fake but realized quickly it wasn't and I found no enjoyment in it, so decided to never actively watch another snuff film. Zero gain.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/new-zealand-mosque-shooting-facebook-twitter-youtube/

Incel link to Christchurch?

Originally posted by Robtard
Pretty much.

I watched that Jihadist beheading the USSR soldier in Afghanistan long ago, initially though it was fake but realized quickly it wasn't and I found no enjoyment in it, so decided to never actively watch another snuff film. Zero gain.

Saw that one years ago. The gurgling and twitches. Never again.

I'm not a fan of snuffs, as well.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/new-zealand-mosque-shooting-facebook-twitter-youtube/

Incel link to Christchurch?

You'll probably be proved correct that this shooter was another incel.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Saw that one years ago. The gurgling and twitches. Never again.

I'm not a fan of snuffs, as well.

Yep, those sounds, was gross and I found neither enjoyment nor some form of misguided respect to the victim in watching him be murdered.

Originally posted by Robtard
You'll probably be proved correct that this shooter was another incel.
i suspect all three are Rob and they met online.

My error, the three.