Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
I know hes addressed this before, and I know his opinion isnt Canon, but just for kicks-
Star Wars Theory asked him:
Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
I know hes addressed this before, and I know his opinion isnt Canon, but just for kicks-
Star Wars Theory asked him:
Re: Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I know hes addressed this before, and I know his opinion isnt Canon, but just for kicks-Star Wars Theory asked him:
Nice if we could get footage of that.
He could easily say that McDairmid told him that Palpatine was secretly in love with Mace Windu.
And why are people at "Star Wars Celebration"? What's there to celebrate?
Their favorite Saga is actively being raped and destroyed right in front of them for the $$$ they supply.
They should call it "Star Wars Ironic Pseudo-Celebration" instead.
Re: Re: Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Nice if we could get footage of that.He could easily say that McDairmid told him that Palpatine was secretly in love with Mace Windu.
And why are people at "Star Wars Celebration"? What's there to celebrate?
Their favorite Saga is actively being raped and destroyed right in front of them for the $$$ they supply.
They should call it "Star Wars Ironic Pseudo-Celebration" instead.
Dude, just because you personally dislike a thing doesn't mean everyone has to hate it. Calm down, get over yourself, and let other people enjoy the things they like. People like you, who try to actively ruin other people's enjoyment of things, are the worst part of any fanbase.
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Originally posted by Underachiever59
Dude, just because you personally dislike a thing doesn't mean everyone has to hate it. Calm down, get over yourself, and let other people enjoy the things they like. People like you, who try to actively ruin other people's enjoyment of things, are the worst part of any fanbase.
So if some liberal director made a movie where George Washington ran away from the British army and then got on his knees and sucked their dicks - that means patriotic people have to enjoy that movie?
Star Wars is being raped - what we have now is a mockery of the very Saga that people came to love.
There is nothing that Disney is doing that is worthy of celebration, dude. You should be able to easily see that.
I'm cool with people enjoying things - I like people being happy - but the fact they're happy about a Saga being shitted on and dropped in the dirt - is ironic at best.
And we know from the reactions to The Last Jedi and Solo that people like me make up 90% of the fanbase - so how can most of the fanbase make up the worst part of it?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
Originally posted by CaveDude33211
So if some liberal director made a movie where George Washington ran away from the British army and then got on his knees and sucked their dicks - that means patriotic people have to enjoy that movie?Star Wars is being raped - what we have now is a mockery of the very Saga that people came to love.
There is nothing that Disney is doing that is worthy of celebration, dude. You should be able to easily see that.
I'm cool with people enjoying things - I like people being happy - but the fact they're happy about a Saga being shitted on and dropped in the dirt - is ironic at best.
And we know from the reactions to The Last Jedi and Solo that people like me make up 90% of the fanbase - so how can most of the fanbase make up the worst part of it?
I think how he means, how you keep going on and on about how bad the new SW is, how it should be boycotted, sold off etc and that sort.
I'm not particularly thrilled about the new SW, but I'm not going around and saying people should stop enjoying it or boycott it or whatever.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
Originally posted by CaveDude33211
So if some liberal director made a movie where George Washington ran away from the British army and then got on his knees and sucked their dicks - that means patriotic people have to enjoy that movie?Star Wars is being raped - what we have now is a mockery of the very Saga that people came to love.
There is nothing that Disney is doing that is worthy of celebration, dude. You should be able to easily see that.
I'm cool with people enjoying things - I like people being happy - but the fact they're happy about a Saga being shitted on and dropped in the dirt - is ironic at best.
And we know from the reactions to The Last Jedi and Solo that people like me make up 90% of the fanbase - so how can most of the fanbase make up the worst part of it?
Man, that is some heavy Strawmanning you just did. Where did I say you "have to" enjoy Disney's direction? Oh, right, I didn't. I just said you shouldn't shit on the people who do enjoy it.
"Star Wars is being raped." That's just like, your opinion, man. Need I remind you that people have been claiming Star Wars is being made a mockery of ever since '78? People have been calling Star Wars dead ever since it first came out, and it's still raking in billions. And calling it a mockery of everything that people have come to love? What about the people who love, oh, I don't know, The Clone Wars? You know, the countless fans who adored that series, and were begging Disney to revive it? Is it not okay for them to, oh, you know, celebrate? When Disney actually does revive it like they asked?
"There's nothing Disney is doing that is worthy of celebration." Again, your opinion. I'm thrilled that Clone Wars is coming back for Season 7. I've loved the Marvel Comics for the most part, which we're getting thanks to Disney. I'm really looking forward to Fallen Order, which genuinely looks like a fun single-player experience. I love how supportive Disney has been of the (non-toxic) fanbase, and how interactive they've been with the community. I'd say all of these things, on top of keeping Star Wars in the public eye and making sure it doesn't just fade into antiquity and become a dead franchise, is more than enough to be labeled "worthy of celebration."
"I'm cool with people enjoying things - I like people being happy - but the fact they're happy about a Saga being shitted on and dropped in the dirt - is ironic at best." Once more, that's your opinion, not "fact". I personally don't feel like the Saga is "being shitted on and dropped in the dirt," and I'm not alone in my viewpoint. Neither are you, of course, but the point stands that the Sequel Trilogy is divisive, not universally hated . There's a clear and distinct difference there. Some people genuinely love the direction The Last Jedi went, while others like myself are simply curious to see where things will go now that The Last Jedi has shaken up convention.
"And we know from the reactions to The Last Jedi and Solo that people like me make up 90% of the fanbase" Just because there is an overly loud part of the fanbase that happens to be overwhelmingly negative, that does not mean that the overwhelming opinion is negative. It's long held true that unhappy people tend to be exponentially louder than happy ones. How often do you sing praise to every little thing that satisfies you? Not very, I'm guessing. But how often do you bash on the things that disappoint you? Frequently, judging by this conversation. Going off of how much money The Last Jedi has made, it's impossible to call it a failure, despite the clear vocal minority that would like you to believe otherwise.
As for Solo, everyone I know in person who actually went to watch the movie has genuinely enjoyed it. Hell, it scratches a ton of itches for even several hard-core Legends fans I know, thanks to the countless easter eggs and tie-ins with Legends material, all while telling a fresh new story. The big issues with Solo were a severe lack of marketing, reshoots that more than doubled its original budget, and the unfortunate timing of being released around the same time as Infinity War, almost guaranteeing less people would go see it. Besides which, I feel that Star Wars fans in general are less interested in solo stories about Han, a character that several people I know simply don't care for or relate to in any way.
Honestly, it feels like you've got a serious case of nostalgia goggles going on. It seems like you're forgetting that Star Wars has been, and always will be, a franchise targeted mostly at children, with a heavy emphasis on merchandising, that has had countless "failures" and "disappointments" over it's now 4 decade run. If you feel like Star Wars is being raped just because the Sequel Trilogy isn't quite what you were hoping it would be, do I need to remind you how absolutely atrocious the Star Wars Holiday Special was? Or how bad the Ewok comics were? How poorly received the Yuuzhan Vong were? The sheer ridiculousness that was Stormtrooper zombies? The abomination that was Waru, and pretty much all of Crystal Star?
Again, get over yourself. You're allowed to dislike a thing, and other people are allowed to have a different opinion. Your opinion is not fact. Nobody's opinion is. This is all subjective, and if people want to celebrate and have fun and enjoy the direction Disney is going, you should just mind your own business and stop putting them down just because you disagree.
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Originally posted by Zenwolf
I think how he means, how you keep going on and on about how bad the new SW is, how it should be boycotted, sold off etc and that sort.I'm not particularly thrilled about the new SW, but I'm not going around and saying people should stop enjoying it or boycott it or whatever.
Originally posted by Underachiever59
Man, that is some heavy Strawmanning you just did. Where did I say you "have to" enjoy Disney's direction? Oh, right, I didn't. I just said you shouldn't shit on the people who do enjoy it."Star Wars is being raped." That's just like, your opinion, man. Need I remind you that people have been claiming Star Wars is being made a mockery of ever since '78? People have been calling Star Wars dead ever since it first came out, and it's still raking in billions. And calling it a mockery of everything that people have come to love? What about the people who love, oh, I don't know, The Clone Wars? You know, the countless fans who adored that series, and were begging Disney to revive it? Is it not okay for them to, oh, you know, celebrate? When Disney actually does revive it like they asked?
"There's nothing Disney is doing that is worthy of celebration." Again, your opinion. I'm thrilled that Clone Wars is coming back for Season 7. I've loved the Marvel Comics for the most part, which we're getting thanks to Disney. I'm really looking forward to Fallen Order, which genuinely looks like a fun single-player experience. I love how supportive Disney has been of the (non-toxic) fanbase, and how interactive they've been with the community. I'd say all of these things, on top of keeping Star Wars in the public eye and making sure it doesn't just fade into antiquity and become a dead franchise, is more than enough to be labeled "worthy of celebration."
"I'm cool with people enjoying things - I like people being happy - but the fact they're happy about a Saga being shitted on and dropped in the dirt - is ironic at best." Once more, that's your opinion, not "fact". I personally don't feel like the Saga is "being shitted on and dropped in the dirt," and I'm not alone in my viewpoint. Neither are you, of course, but the point stands that the Sequel Trilogy is divisive, not universally hated . There's a clear and distinct difference there. Some people genuinely love the direction The Last Jedi went, while others like myself are simply curious to see where things will go now that The Last Jedi has shaken up convention.
"And we know from the reactions to The Last Jedi and Solo that people like me make up 90% of the fanbase" Just because there is an overly loud part of the fanbase that happens to be overwhelmingly negative, that does not mean that the overwhelming opinion is negative. It's long held true that unhappy people tend to be exponentially louder than happy ones. How often do you sing praise to every little thing that satisfies you? Not very, I'm guessing. But how often do you bash on the things that disappoint you? Frequently, judging by this conversation. Going off of how much money The Last Jedi has made, it's impossible to call it a failure, despite the clear vocal minority that would like you to believe otherwise.
As for Solo, everyone I know in person who actually went to watch the movie has genuinely enjoyed it. Hell, it scratches a ton of itches for even several hard-core Legends fans I know, thanks to the countless easter eggs and tie-ins with Legends material, all while telling a fresh new story. The big issues with Solo were a severe lack of marketing, reshoots that more than doubled its original budget, and the unfortunate timing of being released around the same time as Infinity War, almost guaranteeing less people would go see it. Besides which, I feel that Star Wars fans in general are less interested in solo stories about Han, a character that several people I know simply don't care for or relate to in any way.
Honestly, it feels like you've got a serious case of nostalgia goggles going on. It seems like you're forgetting that Star Wars has been, and always will be, a franchise targeted mostly at children, with a heavy emphasis on merchandising, that has had countless "failures" and "disappointments" over it's now 4 decade run. If you feel like Star Wars is being raped just because the Sequel Trilogy isn't quite what you were hoping it would be, do I need to remind you how absolutely atrocious the Star Wars Holiday Special was? Or how bad the Ewok comics were? How poorly received the Yuuzhan Vong were? The sheer ridiculousness that was Stormtrooper zombies? The abomination that was Waru, and pretty much all of Crystal Star?
Again, get over yourself. You're allowed to dislike a thing, and other people are allowed to have a different opinion. Your opinion is not fact. Nobody's opinion is. This is all subjective, and if people want to celebrate and have fun and enjoy the direction Disney is going, you should just mind your own business and stop putting them down just because you disagree.
This is Star Wars, now.
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Originally posted by CaveDude33211
YouTube videoThis is Star Wars, now.
So you're just a troll, copy that. I'll stop feeding you at once.
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Originally posted by Underachiever59
So you're just a troll, copy that. I'll stop feeding you at once.
Nah - I was making a point.
Originally posted by Underachiever59
It seems like you're forgetting that Star Wars has been, and always will be, a franchise targeted mostly at children
Star Wars contains depictions of blood, people being burned alive and being mutilated and decapitated - it isn't aimed mostly at children.
Originally posted by Underachiever59
I'm thrilled that Clone Wars is coming back for Season 7.
The CGI Shows are the only ones aimed specifically at the infantile - hell, even TCW Movie had a plot that revolved around Anakin's *Non-Canon apprentice babysitting a Hutt baby.
TCW and Rebels are mostly aimed at children and adults with the minds of children.
Originally posted by Underachiever59
Need I remind you that people have been claiming Star Wars is being made a mockery of ever since '78? People have been calling Star Wars dead ever since it first came out
And nobody thought Star Wars was dead in '78 - everyone loved The Empire Strikes Back.
Solo sucked - which is why it flopped and hardly anyone saw it.
Again, The reaction to The Last Jedi and Solo are proof that 90% of fans hate this new fake franchise - it ain't just my opinion.
*
Mace: You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master.
Anakin: What? How can you do this? This is outrageous, it's unfair!
Mace: You failed to train your Padawan Ahsoka Tano to Knighthood - so you cannot be a Master.
Anakin: ...Who?
Anakin: If I had failed to train a Padawan, that seems like something Obi-wan would mention, right?
Mace: Well, true...
Re: Re: Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Nice if we could get footage of that.He could easily say that McDairmid told him that Palpatine was secretly in love with Mace Windu.
Hes addressed it a bit more discreetly in front of audiences before, where he hints the same thing, but stops just short of outright saying it.
Also Star Wars Theory is a sound dude. I highly doubt he just made that up.
I also specifically stated that even if Ian does say and believe that it doesnt make it Canon.
Re: Re: Re: Ian asked about Mace vs Sidious
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hes addressed it a bit more discreetly in front of audiences before, where he hints the same thing, but stops just short of outright saying it.Also Star Wars Theory is a sound dude. I highly doubt he just made that up.
That's fine, I don't really care.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I also specifically stated that even if Ian does say and believe that it doesnt make it Canon.
Yeah, I never believed Palpatine threw the fight - the whole point of the existence of Vapaad is to explain why Mace beat Palpatine.
Originally posted by relentless1
Sidious threw the fight end of story, Vaapaad isn't canon
The ability to channel Sith Lightning back into the user AKA the Superconducting-Loop is a technique unique to Vapaad only.
The practitioner of Vaapad would accept the fury of their opponent, transforming themselves into one half of a superconducting loop, with the other half being the power of darkness inherent in the opponent.
- Also, how is Palpatine going to throw a fight when he's being blasted with supposedly lethal-amounts of Sith Lightning?
That's like allowing someone to shoot you in the face multiple times in order to win a gun duel.
Mace had him beat. Pure and simple. Palpatine needed Anakin to intervene, or he was dead.
Mace won.