Elden Ring

Started by Badabing18 pages

I'm doing 2 builds, a dedicated melee at level 80 right now and an int/faith build at level 40 right now.

Does anyone know reallocate stat points?

You can respec after beating Rennala. It'll cost 1 Larval Tear each time, although there seems to be a lot scattered throughout the game.

Originally posted by Astner
There's no real point in mixing Faith, Intelligence, and Arcane.

Nah, Faith+Arcane should be viable. There are several good dragon communion incantations, and the seal that has the +15% buff for those has B-scaling in Faith and S-scaling in Arcane when maxed.

I can't speak for the fundamentalist/death/magma spells themselves, since I haven't used them, but the same should apply to Faith+Intelligence builds. The prince of death's staff and the golden order seal both get A scaling in both Intelligence and Faith.

Given that most of the classes start with at least ~10 levels already invested in Faith or Intelligence or Arcane, I figure that gives their scaling a healthy head-start for single-stat casters of equal level to catch up to.

Originally posted by ares834
From what I've seen, going faith and Int is worth it just for the Sword of Night and Flame. Apparently, it's incredibly broken.

The Weapon Arts are more for PvE since they're inceadibly easy to avoid in PvP, but it is a straight sword and those are pretty quick.

Originally posted by StyleTime
You can respec after beating Rennala. It'll cost 1 Larval Tear each time, although there seems to be a lot scattered throughout the game.

They're dropped by enemies in Nokron, the Eternal City.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, Faith+Arcane should be viable. There are several good dragon communion incantations, and the seal that has the +15% buff for those has B-scaling in Faith and S-scaling in Arcane when maxed.

Saw this streamer, who made a Dragon-Faith build, not a single point invested in Arcane, instead he uses the Silver Tear Mask which gives +8 Arcane and reduces physical attack (which he doesn't use).

YouTube video

Skip to 1:15 where the explanation starts.

And you can off-hand the Dragon Communion Seal to recieve the 15% Dragon-spell boost and you don't actually have to use it (just keep the talisman you use in the main hand).

Placidusax's Ruin (which is supposedly the best dragon-spell) has a 36 Faith requirement so you might as well go all-in on the Faith. Unless you intend to over-level.

It seems the meta likely won't be in the 120-125 range this time around.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It seems the meta likely won't be in the 120-125 range this time around.

We'll see how it turns out. The game is still new, and in the initial theory-crafting phase people just max out all stats without testing things out. In Dark Souls 3 Endurance was pointless for PvP, but people still insisted that they had to dump 30 levels into it.

In this game Mind seems to be pointless for non-casters, and Endurance is only good for equip load. On top of that there's a ton of stat-increasing helmets.

I'm aiming for 100, power-stancing two Hand of Malenia, using Bloodflame on the left one and Bloodgrease on the right.

Hero class, level 100: 60/9/12/16/52/7/12/11, with the Okina Mask and the Millicent's Protesis talisman you get 60 dex, which leaves room for the Erdtree's Favor +2 and Crimson Amber Medallion +2, and you're optimized for PvP.

Maybe I'll stop at level 50 with 22 Vigor and 40 Dexterity for some early PvP.

Either way, it's a good idea to stay low level because you can always level up your character, but you can't level down.

I have to explore everything again. I've spent so much time doing side quests, caves and dungeons that I forgot where half the merchants are located, and I have no clue where I'm supposed to go after beating the first 2 bosses. dur

Yeah, I had to start marking the merchants on my map. And certain npcs and things. Too much stuff for me to memorize.

Originally posted by Badabing
I have to explore everything again. I've spent so much time doing side quests, caves and dungeons that I forgot where half the merchants are located, and I have no clue where I'm supposed to go after beating the first 2 bosses. dur

Apparently you can kill the merchants and they'll drop their Bell Berries which can be given to the statue-merchant at the Roundtable Hold and it will sell their items. And if you kill all of them you'll come across an invader that drops yet another pebble for some extra items.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Astner
I spent the whole night yesterday fighting the first boss (the one you're supposed to die to) restarting and fighting him again. But I did it.

You could safely hit him with magic, but you only had 12 casts and if you managed to hit each one (not miss or have it blocked) it would add up to 1,008 damage, which meant you had 1,592 HP left to get through with the short sword which has no range and deals abyssal damage (takes 33 two-handed hits).

Out of the "starting bosses/enemies you're supposed to die to" I think this is the hardest one, since he's so ****ing fast, he can reach across half the map, and any minor frame rate hick-up or him getting his weapons bounced off the wall will screw you over. Sure the Asylum Demon takes a long time to kill bare-handed, but you can do it reliably. This guy I still feel that I need multiple tries on.

I've tried 4 times to beat this dude and I was planning on trying all night today but I'm also playing a astrologer and this sounds like way more work than I want to try to put in, so I'll probably just move on then. After tryharding in 2 for the last two months I plan on playing this game super casually. Summons, shields, magic. I refuse to get gud.

Originally posted by StyleTime
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Originally posted by Astner
Apparently you can kill the merchants and they'll drop their Bell Berries which can be given to the statue-merchant at the Roundtable Hold and it will sell their items. And if you kill all of them you'll come across an invader that drops yet another pebble for some extra items.

YouTube video

Thanks for the tip. That makes it way easier. Those poor merchants are dying tonight.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I've tried 4 times to beat this dude and I was planning on trying all night today but I'm also playing a astrologer and this sounds like way more work than I want to try to put in, so I'll probably just move on then.

I deleted my Astrologer, and rerolled as a Prophet. Defeated the Grafted Scion again in two tries.

There are strategies to bait out the right attacks that you can punish safely. More specifically: keep your distance until he starts running towards you, because then he'll follow up with one of three attacks: a poke, a jump and swing, or he'll stomp around. The stomp is very easy to punish.

Astrologer wasn't that bad because you can use your Glintstone Pebble spell to take out a third of his HP before taking any real risks.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
After tryharding in 2 for the last two months I plan on playing this game super casually. Summons, shields, magic. I refuse to get gud.

I'm not using any summons or Spirit Ashes with my current character.

But I do use a shield (because it's a good way to learn the bosses's movesets) and I do use the Bloodflame spell for extra bleed on the Bloodhound's Fang in case of dual bosses.

That said, my poise is pretty much nonexistent (8 Endurance) so my character falls flat on their back the moment she takes a hit. The arrow shower Radhan used literally knocked me off my horse and kept me on the ground while my HP whittled away from full to 0 (and I had 40 Vigor).

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I've tried 4 times to beat this dude and I was planning on trying all night today but I'm also playing a astrologer and this sounds like way more work than I want to try to put in, so I'll probably just move on then. After tryharding in 2 for the last two months I plan on playing this game super casually. Summons, shields, magic. I refuse to get gud.

Since you're still early in, Vanguard may be easier to start with if you want to use shields, similar to Knight in DS3. You can rush for the Brass Shield almost immediately, which has the Guard Boost(Stability) of a lower level Greatshield and 100% physical block. Confessor also can use it early, and starts with Incantations if you like Faith spells.

Unless you just enjoy Sorcery.

Summons are probably the biggest thing though. Videos of certain summons soloing bosses are already popping up, actually.

Just picked up Elden Stars, the highest faith-requirement incantation in the game. Somehow I think it's one of the weakest spells in my inventory. Considering a respec.

Beat Godrick with hookclaws. They're pretty good.

This game is much bigger than I imagined it would be.

Originally posted by Badabing
This game is much bigger than I imagined it would be.
Idem. It's more quantity than Dark Souls 2 but also more quality than even DS3 lol.

I was curious to see if my incantation, Order's Blade, could stack on top of grease or my weapon's armament: War Cry. Can confirm that neither worked. Really should've seen that coming. At least incantations don't mess with a weapon's passive effect but not being able to purge things in holy fire makes me feel like less of a space marine.