Doctor Manhattan invades Marvel

I never said he did destroy all of creation in the JL arc. Not what I meant. However, we all know he CAN, as we have seen in Worlds Funnest.

Wait isn’t World’s FUNnest Elseworlds? Is that canon? Sincerely asking

EDIT: WAIT I see on page 1 you say it’s canon for him which I assume is because he is multiversal and is the same Mxy in all DC universes right?

Yes, it's canon. Everything for Mxy is canon, according to a recent issue of Action Comics.

Originally posted by Mr Master
After Wanda's power tore the Omniverse to pieces via her magic expelling out of 616,

[b]she rebuilt the shambled Omniverse with a thought at the end.

Absolutely nothing was overlooked in terms of Cosmic scale reconfiguration.

Wanda's power was God-like in that arc.

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Meggan absorbed the connection to the Omniverse (Otherworld)

and still, with the PAN-Dimensional energies at her will,
was only able to pause Wanda's power for a moment, before being overwhelmed.

Wanda the crazy Goddess. [/B]

Thanks... 👆

Originally posted by Inedian
Thanks... 👆

They are all characters, and they are as impressive as the story dictates. So Superman Prime can beat up Myx if that's the story if you don't want that to have happened you retcon it. Moore never wanted Manhattan like this, but the present writer does.

Originally posted by abhilegend
For the misinformation?

So who is giving misinformation now... you or him?

Originally posted by Inedian
So who is giving misinformation now... you or him?

Well, part of the issue here is that Mr Master is not including retcons in his assessment, as they were published years after HoM.

Which I personally think is wrong.

Ok.

So what Wanda did during HoM was real and is true to Mr Master sayings and then it was retconned.

No, because of the retcon...it isn't the greatest ever seen. Maybe if we had this thread in 2007or whatever, it would be, but if I read the scans from Abhi right, the retcon meant it was only universal level or whatever in scope.

Where exactly is the retcon?

It doesn't change the fact if someone is picking the original comics HoM (like me back then when I knew Wanda was omniversal and then stopped reading comics, so don't know anything about retcon), he will see Wanda tearing omniverse with extreme ease (one of the greatest power ever seen in MU) and then it got retconned.

Maybe we can't use it anymore, but I understand Mr Master here.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where exactly is the retcon?

Uncanny X-Force:
https://i.postimg.cc/3wz3phDg/image.jpg

New Avengers:
https://i.postimg.cc/RVYPTYqS/RCO009.jpg

It talks about global powers, million+ mutants, etc.

Originally posted by Inedian
It doesn't change the fact if someone is picking the original comics HoM (like me back then when I knew Wanda was omniversal and then stopped reading comics, so don't know anything about retcon), he will see Wanda tearing omniverse with extreme ease (one of the greatest power ever seen in MU) and then it got retconned.

Maybe we can't use it anymore, but I understand Mr Master here.

That's like picking up old GL comics, and arguing that Hal is still weak to yellow colours. Or picking up old Superman comics, and arguing he can't fly, only jump over buildings. Or picking up old Thor comics, and arguing that he has Mjolnir etc etc.

Things change.

Originally posted by Inedian
So who is giving misinformation now... you or him?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, part of the issue here is that Mr Master is not including retcons in his assessment, as they were published years after HoM.

Which I personally think is wrong.

And I'm only bringing this up because a specific question about"HOM Wanda" is what prompted this line of discussion.

But the retcon is specifically for HoM.....so if they retconned that during DoS, for example, it turns out Superman had been juicing on Kryptonite beforehand, then we have to take it into account.

Now if OP or whoever limited it specifically to those five issues or whatever for DoS, then we ignore it.

Same way it turns out that DoS Doomsday had earlier survived a Guardian going kamikaze on him, or that he was Kryptonian in origin, or had faced the Radiant etc etc...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't that how we do things though? I mean the recton obviously effects CANON Wanda's history, but if we're talk about the specific HOM version of the character it doesn't seem like any recton's should matter.

And I'm only bringing this up because a specific question about"HOM Wanda" is what prompted this line of discussion.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Inedian
Exactly.

But the retcons deal specifically with that specific character arc...

Put it another way. If they suddenly came out with a retcon for Planet Hulk, where it's revealed the planet is radioactive, thus amping Hulk and weakening Surfer....we kinda have to take that into account.

Forum rules state we take the most recent version of said character. And the most recent version of HoM Wanda was only planetary.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But the retcons deal specifically with that specific character arc...

Put it another way. If they suddenly came out with a retcon for Planet Hulk, where it's revealed the planet is radioactive, thus amping Hulk and weakening Surfer....we kinda have to take that into account.

Forum rules state we take the most recent version of said character. And the most recent version of HoM Wanda was only planetary.

I understand that... mainly what i am reffering with HoM Wanda is that original intention was she was omniversal and it actaully happened in comics... it can't be erased. Since it was retconed, it doesn't apply anymore... but original idea behind was that she was omniversal.

I have no problem actually using latest version.

The original intention behind Superman was that he could only jump really high and couldn't fly.

Doesn't mean anything for us unless the thread limits him to just those showings.