Doctor Manhattan invades Marvel

Originally posted by Inedian
Even though Mxy destroyed everything... it's still known there are few beings that are presented as beyond his power level in DC comics... even Mxy said that himself for Dr Manhattan and there also few others.

So Mxy is not the most powerful, right?

Mxy has admitted inferiority to a few characters in the past, such as Ultimator and The A, but he's typically found ways to beat them regardless. It's different with Manhattan, because we're not going to see he and Mxy interact... So all we'll have to go by is Mxy's own statements regarding how he compares to Manhattan.

...Though I suppose that if Manhattan ends up getting beaten by ridiculous means, it might be cause to overlook Mxy's statements. /shrug

Ok thanks 👆

And a question?

Not long ago it was indicated that not even TOAA is the true Almighty God of Marvel (for me personally when it comes to God or in Marvel TOAA, those things should stay fixed and never change) ... anything new about that?

You're talking about this, I assume?

https://i.imgur.com/NCG0ewE.jpg

Nope, nothing new. TOAA was retconned into sub-omnipotency.

Yes exactly.

Ok, thanks again.

Originally posted by Galan007
You're talking about this, I assume?

https://i.imgur.com/NCG0ewE.jpg

Nope, nothing new. TOAA was retconned into sub-omnipotency.

how in the hell can the supreme being of marvel be weaker then its creations? the ****?

Similar to the Presence

Because being a “writer” in the comic book just doesn’t work....

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So exactly what are they claiming was retconned about what you stated above?

Originally posted by Galan007
It was first retconned in Children's Crusade. Wanda's warp was still kept at potentially omniversal in scope, but we learned that her own power was not responsible for it, nor could she explicitly control it:
https://i.imgur.com/ZBf1vsL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LKoYJJX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6GYjaLa.jpg

Another example:
https://i.imgur.com/tZI2W8U.jpg

And another:
https://i.imgur.com/4RiMVny.jpg

Per that retcon, Wanda was unable to control the power she released during HoM. She essentially just unleashed said power in a moment of "psychological instability", with a relatively simplistic motive/directive in place(ie. "No more Mutants"😉.... And whatever happened after that, happened(collaterally speaking.) She didn't at all intend for the omniverse to get warped or w/e.

*Also note that the power she was channeling there was NOT her own; it was the Life Force(a power she was only able to access in the first place thanks to help from Doom.)

Personally, I liked this retcon because it helped explain how Wanda was able to preform feats that were way beyond what she had ever displayed beforehand. In fact, without this added context, Wanda being able to preform universal/multiversal/omniversal feats makes absolutely no sense, imo. She never operated at a scale remotely close to that before HoM, nor has she done so since. Children's Crusade just fleshed out *how* she randomly became that powerful.

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The second retcon(the one implying that her warp was only global, and that Wanda herself was maybe Phoenix-level) happened in Avengers vs. X-Men.

In short: she wasn't omniversal.

What level is the full power of Phoenix Force?

Iron Fist level 👆

I just wanna go on the record as saying that my exposure to Mr. Mxy was Silver Surfer/Superman, and both he AND Impossible Man deferred to Access's power as the only one capable of traveling and transferring others between the Marvel and DC multiverses on his own! (I spliced just the relevant panels together)

Scene 1

Superman: "Okay then, game's over. Get me back to my universe--"

Impossible Man: "Whoa not so fast pal. It isn't that easy. Mixed Pickles [Mr. Mxy] and I found out it took BOTH our combined powers to make the switchover between you and Surfer work. Neither one of us is Access, after all."

Scene 2

Surfer: "Would not bringing Superman back here serve that purpose better?"

Mxy: "Y'mean switch ya back? Okay by me, Shiney. But, I need Pinhead [Impossible Man] here, and I think he's afraid to trust me--"

The end of scene two also shows Impossible Man using his and Mxy's combined power to trick Mxy into doing something he didn't want to do (bring Superman back to DC without putting Surer back into Marvel).

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
I just wanna go on the record as saying that my exposure to Mr. Mxy was Silver Surfer/Superman, and both he AND Impossible Man deferred to Access's power as the only one capable of traveling and transferring others between the Marvel and DC multiverses on his own! (I spliced just the relevant panels together)

Scene 1

Superman: "Okay then, game's over. Get me back to my universe--"

Impossible Man: "Whoa not so fast pal. It isn't that easy. Mixed Pickles [Mr. Mxy] and I found out it took [B]BOTH our combined powers to make the switchover between you and Surfer work. Neither one of us is Access, after all."

Scene 2

Surfer: "Would not bringing Superman back here serve that purpose better?"

Mxy: "Y'mean switch ya back? Okay by me, Shiney. But, I need Pinhead [Impossible Man] here, and I think he's afraid to trust me--"

The end of scene two also shows Impossible Man using his and Mxy's combined power to trick Mxy into doing something he didn't want to do (bring Superman back to DC without putting Surer back into Marvel). [/B]

As for the crossover itself...

Originally posted by Galan007
Impossible Man's encounter with Mxy(aka. "Mixed Pickles"😉 in the Silver Surfer/Superman crossover was explicitly referenced in IM's 2007 OHOTMU bio:

...So even Marvel regards said crossover as canon. /shrug

*It's also worth noting that IM's OHOTMU bio further references the issue where Mxy impersonated IM(on AT LEAST one other occasion) and tormented the Fantastic Four of an undisclosed dimension:

...Which is a direct reference to the events of Superman #50, where we literally saw Mxy morph into IM, and torment an alternate F4:

So yeah, it would definitely seem like even Marvel is totally cool with Mxy popping-into their company and f*cking around whenever he wants to. 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
Access' whole gimmick was hopping between companies, so that comparison makes sense. 👆

As for the crossover itself...

jawdrop

Holy shit it’s honestly been years since I’ve had my mind blown like that from a comic book wow. Honestly thank you. Man (obviously, given who I fanboy) I wish Access was still around, but it’s a crime he was never actually antagonized by Mxy on-panel.

What thread is that post from?? It says I don’t have permission to see it!

The final question then, is what on earth does that make Dr. Strangefate's servant, "Myx"??

Did Mxy choose to become amalgamated with Wong and serve Strangefate for kicks?? Or did the the "Brothers" (Marvel/DC) do the one thing to Mxy that he couldn't control?

(Sorry for the double post. I tried to edit this in at the 16th minute i guess)

I haven't read the Amalgam stuff in ages, but is it ever actually stated that "Myx" is a fusion of Mxy + Wong?

I only ask because Myx's bio doesn't mention him being an amalgamation at all. It just states that he hails from an extra-dimensional order of imps, and only possessed a small fraction of the power Strangefate had:
https://i.imgur.com/oAVfUF8.jpg
...And Strangefate wasn't really that impressive, from what I recall.

So was Myx just an Amalgam universe exclusive that wasn't created by fusing characters from DC and Marvel? Legit do not remember.

Sometimes it was not quite so explicit, but the conclusions one can draw are in their origins/name. It's never explicitly stated in any comic that Hal Stark the Iron Lantern is an Amalgam of Hal & Tony, but he's a billionaire pilot with a defense contract and air force experience.

We may have to ask Ron Marz himself, but Myx's origin story (as you mention and is laid out in Strangefate #1) is clearly Wong's transplanted onto the supposed species of Mxy, and the name is so similar it's at least worth looking at!

Also what thread was your previously quoted post from??

man wanda proven to be only global level by the writer not long after this thread

no more omniversal wanda