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Everyone keeps saying Wanda’s HoM feats were somehow omniversal. First, how are they anything close to that? Sure they change one reality substantially, but how did affect all of existence?Where are the scans? Second, she didn’t even really do exactly what she meant to do. He power is her weakness in that she does not have the control nor the precision to pull something off like stop “our reality” pencil from drawing her

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The original intention behind Superman was that he could only jump really high and couldn't fly.

But that's not retcon... it's just character evolving in abilities... no need for retcon. With Wanda is completely different because she tore everything on panel and that can never be erased... it will stay in original comics.

Everyone keeps saying Wanda’s HoM feats were somehow omniversal. First, how are they anything close to that? Sure they change one reality substantially, but how did affect all of existence?Where are the scans? Second, she didn’t even really do exactly what she meant to do. He power is her weakness in that she does not have the control nor the precision to pull something off like stop “our reality” pencil from drawing her

Exactly. Wanda never destroyed the Omniverse, casually.

Mxy destroyed the DC Animated Universe

Elseworld Multiverse

And EVERYTHING in-between.

"No more Infinite Earth's."
"No more alternative UniverseS."
"No more Pasts. No more Futures."
"No more Superdopes."
"No more anything."

Originally posted by Inedian
But that's not retcon... it's just character evolving in abilities... no need for retcon. With Wanda is completely different because she tore eveyrthing on panel and that can never be erased... it will stay in original comics.

Originally posted by carver9
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When are you going to answer Pr in the character ownage thread lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But the retcon was that she never did that.....only over a planet.

Yes. Look we understand what we mean.

HOM Wanda is pretty weak, if she only affected a planet. LMAO

Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't that how we do things though? I mean the recton obviously effects CANON Wanda's history, but if we're talk about the specific HOM version of the character it doesn't seem like any recton's should matter.

And I'm only bringing this up because a specific question about"HOM Wanda" is what prompted this line of discussion.

Endangered Species retconned it as possibly multiversal. Messiah Complex (X Factor 25) further retconned it as only affecting possible futures of 616 reality but after Hope Summers was born, two new futures were created which showed mutants being born again.

It was finally reverted back to original intent by Bendis himself in AvX.

So let's not pretend on Master's misleading scans that HOM Wanda was some omniversal reality warper , shall we? Or it was some consistent thing even. It was extremely inconsistent in its own event.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Original intent for HOM was that Wanda depowered 616 reality mutants only. Exiles even went into alternate realities just after HOM and no reality was affected by it, just 616 reality.

Endangered Species retconned it as possibly multiversal. Messiah Complex (X Factor 25) further retconned it as only affecting possible futures of 616 reality but after Hope Summers was born, two new futures were created which showed mutants being born again.

It was finally reverted back to original intent by Bendis himself in AvX.

So let's not pretend on Master's misleading scans that HOM Wanda was some omniversal reality warper , shall we? Or it was some consistent thing even. It was extremely inconsistent in its own event.

That's pretty concise. Do you know off hand which issue the Exiles saw mutants in other dimensions just after HoM? Is it acknowledged in the comic that Wanda did this in 616 and no one was affected there? Just wondering

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
That's pretty concise. Do you know off hand which issue the Exiles saw mutants in other dimensions just after HoM? Is it acknowledged in the comic that Wanda did this in 616 and no one was affected there? Just wondering

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But the retcon is specifically for HoM.....so if they retconned that during DoS, for example, it turns out Superman had been juicing on Kryptonite beforehand, then we have to take it into account.

Now if OP or whoever limited it specifically to those five issues or whatever for DoS, then we ignore it.

Same way it turns out that DoS Doomsday had earlier survived a Guardian going kamikaze on him, or that he was Kryptonian in origin, or had faced the Radiant etc etc...

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Mr. Master seems to be falling apart lately.

It's quite a sight

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Exactly. Wanda never destroyed the Omniverse, casually.

Mxy destroyed the DC Animated Universe

Elseworld Multiverse

And EVERYTHING in-between.

We even saw one of his rage-fits ravaging Hypertime here:

It ultimately culminated with Mxy destroying the entire damn company... Across all of its pasts, presents, and futures:

And in the end Mxy recreated all of it with a *snap* and made plans with Bat-Mite to do the same thing "next Tuesday":

Hard for any feat...from any company...to ever top that, tbh.

Originally posted by Senor Cage

Wanda never destroyed the Omniverse, casually.

Wanda, casually rebuilt the Omniverse that was torn to pieces by her power. (wave)

Originally posted by Senor Cage

HOM Wanda is pretty weak, if she only affected a planet. LMAO

Originally posted by MrMind

It's quite a sight

Now, you're entertaining Off-Topic poppycock to try and stain my name. 👆

This, has now elevated you to a definitive Troll status.

Originally posted by Galan007
...And prior to that Mxy "took a second" and destroyed not only the 5th dimension, but EVERY numbered dimension in DC(including the fractional realms, lol):

We even saw one of his rage-fits ravaging Hypertime here:

It ultimately culminated with Mxy destroying the entire damn company... Across all of its pasts, presents, and futures:

And in the end Mxy recreated all of it with a *snap* and made plans with Bat-Mite to do the same thing "next Tuesday":

Hard for any feat...from any company...to ever top that, tbh.

And he wasn't even weakened or tired or anything. Pretty insane.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just read Exiles 72-100. Each issue revealed new mutants in alternate universes.

Do they mention in any of those comics what SW had done on 616?

Originally posted by Mr Master
True.

Wanda, casually rebuilt the Omniverse that was torn to pieces by her power. (wave)

😐

So, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were simply simple,
but then you cluelessly LIED in support of King Troll stating
that I was offending him without reason,
.... boom, ok, maybe the kid is just hurt from getting called out for plagiarism,
but then you create a bait thread (Armor/Mady-Sca/Pro) which was ignored by most lol.

Now, you're entertaining Off-Topic poppycock to try and stain my name. 👆

This, has now elevated you to a definitive Troll status.

Originally posted by Mr Master
After Wanda's power tore the Omniverse to pieces via her magic expelling out of 616,

[b]she rebuilt the shambled Omniverse with a thought at the end.

Absolutely nothing was overlooked in terms of Cosmic scale reconfiguration.

Wanda's power was God-like in that arc.

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Meggan absorbed the connection to the Omniverse (Otherworld)

and still, with the PAN-Dimensional energies at her will,
was only able to pause Wanda's power for a moment, before being overwhelmed.

Wanda the crazy Goddess. [/B]

So exactly what are they claiming was retconned about what you stated above?

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Do they mention in any of those comics what SW had done on 616?

Even though Mxy destroyed everything... it's still known there are few beings that are presented as beyond his power level in DC comics... even Mxy said that himself for Dr Manhattan and there also few others.

So Mxy is not the most powerful, right?