Loki vs Magneto

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Loki vs Magneto

This is Avengers Loki w/ Mind Stone staff.

Magneto from Apocalypse w/amp.

Who wins?

What's the starting distance and environment?

They’re in fairly close proximity. 20 feet from one another in a barren and lifeless junkyard.

Magneto shoves the staff up his ass without moving from the starting point.

This depends largely on whether Magneto can manipulate the metal Loki has on him. If he can, this is a stomp for him. If he can't, Loki might very well be able to just blast him with the staff before Magneto can throw something big enough at him to seriously hurt him.

Loki can magically call off his armor (and seemingly his knives) so I doubt Magneto can use those against him. He may be able to control the staff.

I'm a bit unsure of this match to be honest. Magneto has more raw power and a lot of ammunition in a junk yard but we don't know how well he'll do against Loki's illusions. It will also be hard for Magneto to hit Loki with something strong enough to take him out whereas one good shot from Loki can kill Magneto.

Handling illusions would also probably hedge on the metal quantity and whether Magneto can manipulate it, as he has on multiple occasions shown the ability to detect metal without needing to see it. And, obviously, illusions won't have any real metal on them, so that would allow him to spot the fakes, so to speak.

Also, problem for Loki is if Mags can use the staff and Loki removes his armor, knives etc. his offensive output drops drastically. Especially when his opponent can fly to keep his distance.

However, if BFR is on the table, Magneto can just wrap some metal around Loki and throw him like a mile away, similar to what he did to Logan in DoFP.

Erik in a massive stomp

Magneto has had shields since Apocalypse. So yeah, going with him decisively.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Magneto has had shields since Apocalypse. So yeah, going with him decisively.

IIRC, he can only enact those shields with a lot of prep.

Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, he can only enact those shields with a lot of prep.

Seems like it, given he never used them in DP.

That said, unless this goes to H2H, I dont see Loki competing. The staff will go flying into Magnetos hand, and Loki will have to be rid of any metal weapons.

Eric can also control the Earth post Apocalypse.

Did the Apoc amp actually stay with him, though? It’s debatable as to whether the amp was permanent since he’s never shown the same feats again.

The others like Storm kept their amps and mutations like her white hair. Why would Magneto lose his?

And, to be fair, he doesn't generally need to display that level of power in 99% of scenarios. Tearing buildings half a planet away apart isn't going to help you much when your opponent is right in front of you.

Plus, even old-ass Magneto from the original timeline could lift the Golden Gate Bridge, which is nearly 900,000 tons IIRC.

Originally posted by KingD19
The others like Storm kept their amps and mutations like her white hair. Why would Magneto lose his?

I forget her amp. Please elaborate on the nature of her abilities, both post and pre Apoc aside from cosmetic changes.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I forget her amp. Please elaborate on the nature of her abilities, both post and pre Apoc aside from cosmetic changes.

She learned to fly and fire spontaneous lightning from her hands. Something Adult Storm could not do until X3.

Also I dont think Apoc amped/transformed Eric. Just go to him to unleash his own full potential. Much like Charles did for him in First Class.

Without a doubt Magneto can control all the metal on Loki (even the staff).

But this is a quick draw fight. How fast is Mags at controlling metal? I know he can stop bullets the moment they leave the barrel. That has to count for something. Otherwise anyone with a gun and is a fast shot can beat Magneto.

Mags wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
Otherwise anyone with a gun and is a fast shot can beat Magneto.

😬

Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, he can only enact those shields with a lot of prep.

He was using them actively during the train sequence to prevent himself from being killed when the train crashed and from rubble hitting hkn

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Did the Apoc amp actually stay with him, though? It’s debatable as to whether the amp was permanent since he’s never shown the same feats again.

👆

Exactly.

Originally posted by carthage
He was using them actively during the train sequence to prevent himself from being killed when the train crashed and from rubble hitting hkn

Don't recall that.