We can't know for sure.
The "amping/teaching" scene is quite similar to this scene from First Class:
So, this supports Darth Thor's stance. A lot.
Originally posted by Surtur
Why wouldn't he amp him?
Erik is already one of the most powerful mutants on the planet. He just needed a "nudge".
Apoc never really needed to make physical contact or perform any rituals/gestures/whatever before amping someone --- so you may be very well right.
But from what we've seen in First Class, there are easier ways to unlock Mags' potential than messing with his body. And it seemed that was what Apoc did.
In the end, all that matters is that he seemed to be at his standard power levels in DP.
Unless there's something I missed:
Originally posted by carthage
He was using them actively during the train sequence to prevent himself from being killed when the train crashed and from rubble hitting hkn
Need to rewatch that scene.
Originally posted by Surtur
Based on what? He amped everyone else.
Apocalypse himself makes a pretty clear distinction with the various characters. For example, he specifically refers to Magneto not knowing his "own strength" during the Auschwitz scene, whereas with people like Xavier, he explicitly states that he'd amplify them to do what he needed, "you don't need Cerebro to amplify your powers. You have me." But hey, guess you can ignore what he says if you want.
Originally posted by h1a8
Quoting part of someone's post, is trolling.
Did you actually understand what I was trying to say?
No its not. I quoted the relevant part which I thought was bonkers and asnine conclusion.
This is why trolls shouldnt lecture on trolling, because they (you) cannot tell the difference.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Apocalypse himself makes a pretty clear distinction with the various characters. For example, he specifically refers to Magneto not knowing his "own strength" during the Auschwitz scene, whereas with people like Xavier, he explicitly states that he'd amplify them to do what he needed, "you don't need Cerebro to amplify your powers. You have me." But hey, guess you can ignore what he says if you want.
I'm not ignoring what he says, I just don't think his comments about Magneto mean he wasn't amping him. I recognize that he was also saying he hasn't reached his full power yet.
It makes no sense to me...if you saw a mutant and you say he hadn't tapped his full power, but you *also* have the ability to amplify powers, wouldn't you do both? Help him reach his peak, and then go beyond? I dunno maybe he didn't wanna make him too powerful.
^ Well:
1) We saw Magneto unleash his power and there was no indication of Apoc amping Magneto.
2) Surely Apoc would have removed/stopped the amp when Magneto turned on him, at which point Eric still had his shields.
3) Even if he was amped, Storm kept hers, so no reason to think Eric lost his if not specifically stated.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not ignoring what he says, I just don't think his comments about Magneto mean he wasn't amping him. I recognize that he was also saying he hasn't reached his full power yet.It makes no sense to me...if you saw a mutant and you say he hadn't tapped his full power, but you *also* have the ability to amplify powers, wouldn't you do both? Help him reach his peak, and then go beyond? I dunno maybe he didn't wanna make him too powerful.
It could be exactly that. Magneto can already potentially muck up the entire planet with enough time. Perhaps any further and he would have posed a direct threat to Apocalypse. And that guy didn't seem like the type who wanted rivals around, given the whole god-complex.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Well:1) We saw Magneto unleash his power and there was no indication of Apoc amping Magneto.
2) Surely Apoc would have removed/stopped the amp when Magneto turned on him, at which point Eric still had his shields.
3) Even if he was amped, Storm kept hers, so no reason to think Eric lost his if not specifically stated.
It was well-established how emotions play a huge part in Mags' control over his powers. First Class. Posted the video already.
The "amp" happened at the remains of Auschwitz camp.
What do you think about what carthage said? You caught that or not?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was well-established how emotions play a huge part in Mags' control over his powers. First Class. Posted the video already.The "amp" happened at the remains of Auschwitz camp.
Thats possible. But that means it can be repeated under the right circumstances.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What do you think about what carthage said? You caught that or not?
Seen it twice but never saw that. I doubt he can raise shields without prep.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats possible. But that means it can be repeated under the right circumstances.
I was trying to say that there is more evidence supporting your stance than vice versa.
Also, it sure helps how Magneto lost his woman and daughter before Apoc began tutoring him.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Seen it twice but never saw that. I doubt he can raise shields without prep.
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Again, Magneto had a significant power increase in the past just by listening to Xavier.
Doesn't matter if he was amped or not --- what matters is: 1) he hasn't displayed any of his new abilities in DP, 2) even if he was amped, the amp itself wouldn't just fade away (as Storm retained her abilities).