Originally posted by DarkSaint85
People forget that you're an idi- oh, no they don't.
save the feels for somebody that cares.
look at the power sets. Orion is basically superman without flight meanwhile silver surfer is a stable version of new 52 Captain atom for the most part. We COULD include Orion using his mother box but realistically how often do we see him use it beyond boom tubes and healing?
Originally posted by abhilegend
You know Hunger is totally non canon, right? It shows DC and Marvel were part of one universe even and even the writer said Orion would beat Surfer if everyone goes all out.http://m.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18726&PN=0&TPN=4
Why is it not the case that Galactus travels to the New God's realm from the MU?
"Dare I channel the energies of the crunch, BEND THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE CREATION EVENT TO MY WILL".
Like I said before, he CONTROLLED the energy from the crunch.
Originally posted by carver9
"Dare I channel the energies of the crunch, BEND THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE CREATION EVENT TO MY WILL".Like I said before, he CONTROLLED the energy from the crunch.
Originally posted by carver9learn to read and actually understand what stuff means ffs
"Dare I channel the energies of the crunch, BEND THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE CREATION EVENT TO MY WILL".Like I said before, he CONTROLLED the energy from the crunch.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
bruh tbh your ignorance disturbs me.JUST BECAUSE Orion's DESTINED to beat Darkseid does not mean he can beat Darkseid level characters. it's the same case with Drax and Thanos.
Calling me ignorant yet you don’t even know of the prophecy.
Said prophecy has never once stated that Darkseid would lose to Orion, per Kirby’s own words. Said prophecy said they are destined to fight, no winners were ever given.
Originally posted by carver9
This happens again with Orion admitting again that the surfer is a foe like none he has ever faced before...https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41564683/SmartSelect_20190712-092322_Chrome.jpg.html
When Surfer gets serious, he basically kills him in one attack...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41564686/SmartSelect_20190712-092221_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41564689/SmartSelect_20190712-092246_Chrome.jpg.html
Unusable
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Norrin could just do this do the Dog of War's flying chariot.https://i.imgur.com/q62YTMs.jpg
He could do this to any if his gadgets.
Astro force don't mean nothing to Norrin. Since Eternals are essentially New gods of Marvel and Ikkrus is up there in power I would even more than Orion. Norrin could asborb anything he would throw at him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Motherbox drains Surfer. End.
Originally posted by lawest9
Has this been proven? If so when and where?
He draws his power from the Source, like the Hulk does from the Gammaverse. Both near infinite power sources in comic canon. The Surfer can also draw on large quantities of the Power Cosmic. The strongest that the Silver Surfer has ever been hinted on becoming rivaled Galactus in power. He was emotionally compromised though, so I'm not entirely sure that he can normally tap into that amount of PC. I've never seen Orion on the level of Galactus either though. The only comic written into canon that gave me any sense of measurment between Galactus, Darkseid, Orion, and the Silver Surfer happened during the Hunger, which IMO was falsely skewed in terms of power levels. Which is why it shouldn't be ever used.
The Source allows for Orion to become as powerful as Darkseid who has Celestial levels of power. The only fair way that I can see this being a steal for Orion, is if he could take that amount of power from the Source at any given time of his choosing. Or, is it a thing that happens only when he faces off against Darkseid? We have to consider what the Source is before jumping to conclusions.
Originally posted by StoicYes.........I still maintain that the Orion/SS fight shouldn't have been so one sided, far less opponents than Orion have given the Surfer a better fight than that.
He draws his power from the Source, like the Hulk does from the Gammaverse. Both near infinite power sources in comic canon. The Surfer can also draw on large quantities of the Power Cosmic. The strongest that the Silver Surfer has ever been hinted on becoming rivaled Galactus in power. He was emotionally compromised though, so I'm not entirely sure that he can normally tap into that amount of PC. I've never seen Orion on the level of Galactus either though. The only comic written into canon that gave me any sense of measurment between Galactus, Darkseid, Orion, and the Silver Surfer happened during the Hunger, which IMO was falsely skewed in terms of power levels. Which is why it shouldn't be ever used.The Source allows for Orion to become as powerful as Darkseid who has Celestial levels of power. The only fair way that I can see this being a steal for Orion, is if he could take that amount of power from the Source at any given time of his choosing. Or, is it a thing that happens only when he faces off against Darkseid? We have to consider what the Source is before jumping to conclusions.
Originally posted by lawest9'
Yes.........I still maintain that the Orion/SS fight shouldn't have been so one sided, far less opponents than Orion have given the Surfer a better fight than that.
He wasn't anywhere near formidable enough to defeat Darkseid--who is FAR beyond Surfer as he later became by the Simonson run.
Even Darkseid hadn't absorbed multiple Pantheons worth of power as he had b y the modern era.
per Byrne's portrayal those were less powerful, less formidable version of Darkseid and Orion, respectively.
Originally posted by panthergod
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per Byrne's portrayal at the time Orion is 300 years old.. he was a rookie and later got upgrades in skill in JK4W by Byrne in the modern era.He wasn't anywhere near formidable enough to defeat Darkseid--who is FAR beyond Surfer as he later became by the Simonson run.
Even Darkseid hadn't absorbed multiple Pantheons worth of power as he had b y the modern era.
per Byrne's portrayal those were less powerful, less formidable version of Darkseid and Orion, respectively.
Where does all of this info come from,?
