Silver Surfer vs Orion

Overrated: Martian Manhunter
Flash
Silver Surfer
Hulk
Thor
Doctor Doom

Underrated: Superman
Lex Luthor
Hal Jordan
Orion
Gladiator
Juggernaut

That's my personal top 6 for over and underrated. As for the Superman hate I feel since Baz is gone that it has lessened here but the Multiversal feat really brought the heat and traffic here and other places.

TBH, there isn't a single universally-loved character on KMC. Almost every one of the more popular characters has at least one or two fervent fanboys, and at least the same amount of haters.

That is true. That is why with Baz gone I feel the hate for Supes has gone down.

Hulk on the other hand is not being done any favors by Carver or Hulkster.

Originally posted by playa1258
That is true. That is why with Baz gone I feel the hate for Supes has gone down.

Hulk on the other hand is not being done any favors by Carver or Hulkster.

A story as old as time, that is.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Agreed. Likewise, I'm wondering where Abhi gets the idea of Surfer always jobbing to Thor. Blood and Thunder is it. Their first fight has surfer dominating, albeit with an amp. That's not jobbing. Their last encounter is a complete stalemate.

And I would like to see proof that GLs are faster.

Basically this. I went back and read some of Abhi’s GL vs SS thread and better understand where he’s coming from, but as someone who’s only been paying attention for like 6 months, the pendulum has swung the other way hard and most of the people in that thread seemed to have left the forum.

Someone posted an incredibly impressive list of scans/feats by SS in that thread, most of which was written off because the OP stipulated it was “energy projection only.”

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Surfer has definitely been overrated in the forums, but he has feats showing that he is more than capable of beating GL, Orion, Doomsday, Thor, or even Superman too. He is also definitely capable of losing to them. The rhetoric that he’s some little b*tch however is totally bonkers imo, but going back and seeing how annoyingly ppl posted for him for over a decade here, I get it.

Originally posted by playa1258
Overrated: Martian Manhunter
Flash
Silver Surfer
Hulk
Thor
Doctor Doom

Underrated: Superman
Lex Luthor
Hal Jordan
Orion
Gladiator
Juggernaut

That's my personal top 6 for over and underrated. As for the Superman hate I feel since Baz is gone that it has lessened here but the Multiversal feat really brought the heat and traffic here and other places.

I hate battle zones but I would most definitely BZ you on this topic. Especially using the people you mentioned above as being hated here.

I don't do BZ but I'm sure Abhi would BZ over both Hulk and Superman hate.

Originally posted by playa1258
That is true. That is why with Baz gone I feel the hate for Supes has gone down.

Hulk on the other hand is not being done any favors by Carver or Hulkster.

Please cite and link these posts by me that involve Hulk.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Basically this. I went back and read some of Abhi’s GL vs SS thread and better understand where he’s coming from, but as someone who’s only been paying attention for like 6 months, the pendulum has swung the other way hard and most of the people in that thread seemed to have left the forum.

Someone posted an incredibly impressive list of scans/feats by SS in that thread, most of which was written off because the OP stipulated it was “energy projection only.”

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Surfer has definitely been overrated in the forums, but he has feats showing that he is more than capable of beating GL, Orion, Doomsday, Thor, or even Superman too. He is also definitely capable of losing to them. The rhetoric that he’s some little b*tch however is totally bonkers imo, but going back and seeing how annoyingly ppl posted for him for over a decade here, I get it.

GLs blow him out of the water in even those.

Are you serious???? 😄😄😄😄

I need to find out who popularised the term "space cheese" and ban them.

Slightly unrelated but I was one of the dumb kids who thought the moon was actually made of cheese well into 4th grade. There was a good week I was super bummed I could never be an astronaut because I was lactose-intolerant.... Just a dumb, sad, gassy kid... what were we talking about?

The earliest I found was from 2011

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nice rant. Wonder woman lifted half of eternity too. It was you who was saying that because gladiator busted a piece of rock(albeit a giant rock), he's the strongest herald. Now Bill destroyed planetS in his fight with stardust, so now he is the strongest one, right? These space cheese feats are meaningless, superman turned the wheels of Maggedon who was bigger than entire solar system and pushed a ship through hyperspace which was towing earth and moon simultaneously. He also nearly broke earth by just free falling from upper atmosphere while nearly dead and almost powerless. Don't try to get in a feat war with Superman/Thor. Not even surfer has feats like them, gladiator who?

You're welcome 😈

Edit: actually, just found one from 2010, from Rage.

Not EVEN Surfer???

Originally posted by playa1258
Overrated: Martian Manhunter
Flash
Silver Surfer
Hulk
Thor
Doctor Doom

Underrated: Superman
Lex Luthor
Hal Jordan
Orion
Gladiator
Juggernaut

That's my personal top 6 for over and underrated. As for the Superman hate I feel since Baz is gone that it has lessened here but the Multiversal feat really brought the heat and traffic here and other places.

I still haven't seen it as a multiversal punch. I don't care which character did it. It simply made no sense to make it into something that it clearly was not. It was a great punch but give me a break. And my opinion has nothing to do with hate.

Originally posted by Stoic
I still haven't seen it as a multiversal punch. I don't care which character did it. It simply made no sense to make it into something that it clearly was not. It was a great punch but give me a break. And my opinion has nothing to do with hate.

Its not

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Slightly unrelated but I was one of the dumb kids who thought the moon was actually made of cheese well into 4th grade. There was a good week I was super bummed I could never be an astronaut because I was lactose-intolerant.... Just a dumb, sad, gassy kid... what were we talking about?

Nice. Wanted to be an astronaut for the same reason really. Even wanted to be the first person in the sun. I was like, if i go to the sun at night, I’ll be fine.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Not EVEN Surfer???

If you’re answering the quote from Ahbi, then yes. Not even Surfer has the feats to go against the likes of Thor, let alone Superman.

Feat wise, Superman is damn ridiculous for a herald. Clark still set the standard when it comes to a herald jumping pass his pay grade whenever he feels like it.

Thor has significantly more appearances than Surfer and Superman has more than both.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Thor has significantly more appearances than Surfer and Superman has more than both.

So what?

Post Crisis Superman>Thor>Surfer. Period.