Superman [pre-OWAW] vs Gladiator

Started by Philosophía6 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Thought you was going to add something. Oh well. Anyone else.
One more try, before you get reported.

Again.

Will you ever back up your position, or do you continue to spam/troll every thread with the same meaningless, baseless posts?

This is your chance.

Superman of the 90s.

Surely Gladiator's combat speed, striking and durability surpass him?

You've been nipple twisting since yesterday, surely you're not a coward now when you actually have to prove something?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based on which feats of Gladiator do you say he wins?

It's a simple question in the Original Post. You haven't answered it?

I posted questions. Answer my question and then we can continue.

But you never answered OP, why do you insist that he answers your questions first?

Originally posted by carver9
Name Supes combat speed showings, please.

Moving when time was stopped. That was pure speed.

Post Crisis?

Originally posted by carver9
It doesnt work like that. Lol, I asked the question first and then you are going to answer a question with a question. That question is not just for Philo by the way, so if anyone else want to step in that would be great. COMBAT showings, please.
Superman has a long conversation, walks around casually, loosens his tie, etc all in the fraction of a nanosecond.

Pre-OWAW Superman is stronger than people think.

He was able to push a space station that was 600 miles in diameter in Superman: The Earth Stealers.

That's slightly bigger than the dwarf planet, Ceres.

Not saying Superman wins; I just wanted to throw that out there.

Superman wins
A copy vs the original
Whatever feat Glads has, Superman has a better one. They have almost identical power sets but Superman’s is better

Originally posted by The_Dog_of_War
Pre-OWAW Superman is stronger than people think.

He was able to push a space station that was 600 miles in diameter in Superman: The Earth Stealers.

That's slightly bigger than the dwarf planet, Ceres.

Not saying Superman wins; I just wanted to throw that out there.

Correction: He moved the Earth Moon system it it's entirety, single-handed.

Glads destroys.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gladiator wins.

PATHETIC THANOSI LIES!!!

Superman wins. Why is this even a discussion?

Because Carvatron has embarked on a very convoluted quest I'm not sure even he understands.

Going by Gladiator's recent Galactus encounter, he appears more impressive. Gladiator is able to battle a significantly amped Galactus for a prolonged period before falling. Galactus was a multiversal threat at that point and since we can't compare it to Superman's encounter with regular Galactus per the rules, I will use the next best thing; Imperiex Prime.

Imperiex was only a universal threat at the time he was able to reduce Hunter Prey Doomsday to a skeleton with a single blast and HP DD is clearly shown to be superior to 90s Superman. The implication is that the same would have happened to OWAW Superman if not rescued by Darkseid.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Going by Gladiator's recent Galactus encounter, he appears more impressive. Gladiator is able to battle a significantly amped Galactus for a prolonged period before falling. Galactus was a multiversal threat at that point and since we can't compare it to Superman's encounter with regular Galactus per the rules, I will use the next best thing; Imperiex Prime.

Imperiex was only a universal threat at the time he was able to reduce Hunter Prey Doomsday to a skeleton with a single blast and HP DD is clearly shown to be superior to 90s Superman. The implication is that the same would have happened to OWAW Superman if not rescued by Darkseid.

Darkseid outright admitted he had to save Supermans life.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Going by Gladiator's recent Galactus encounter, he appears more impressive. Gladiator is able to battle a significantly amped Galactus for a prolonged period before falling. Galactus was a multiversal threat at that point and since we can't compare it to Superman's encounter with regular Galactus per the rules, I will use the next best thing; Imperiex Prime.

Imperiex was only a universal threat at the time he was able to reduce Hunter Prey Doomsday to a skeleton with a single blast and HP DD is clearly shown to be superior to 90s Superman. The implication is that the same would have happened to OWAW Superman if not rescued by Darkseid.

Reality was warped at that point when everyone was fighting Galactus.

Just prior to sucker punching Galactus, Galactus had the figurative shits so bad, the universe was feeling the ramifications.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reality was warped at that point when everyone was fighting Galactus.

Just prior to sucker punching Galactus, Galactus had the figurative shits so bad, the universe was feeling the ramifications.

Was Galactus, or any of the characters that confronted him any weaker than normal due to reality being warped? If so, where was it written? I ask because I may have missed it. Gladiator seemed to have been given a decent push during that showing.

Scientific rules were being completely rewritten, is my point. Was even explicitly said.

So my point is, using it as a yardstick is problematic. Gladiator outdoes the photons of Galactus attack, great. Was the speed of light the same? I cannot say, and neither can you.

Is energy stacking? If he is at 100GJ (as an example, just plucked an easy to use number), and Surfer is 10GJ, does absorbing him mean he's now 110GJ? Then when he has the shits, he's now....95GJ?

Impossible to say. I cannot say it for certain, you can't say it for certain. That's all I've ever said this entire time. Saying you, logically he MUST be super amped from feeding ignores that scientific laws - and hence, logic - were all gone.

Glads loses badly

superman with his eyes closed