Bane has a large strength advantage going by feats. The neck pickup feat is nuts, especially considering Bane did it casually as can be.
Batroc has speed and agility based on what we saw in Winter Soldier.
Really depends on if Batroc tags Bane's mask enough. If he exploits his mask weakness quickly and methodically while keeping his distance, Batroc takes the big boi down. I actually will say that Bane could win the fight though if things get close enough to start grappling.
So, props to Bane on a possible win and this thread for arguing both sides pretty well.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So? Baleman also fought visibly slower than Batroc.
That's irrelevant to the discussion.
But to address your point, Batman varied in speed of his attacks. Some attacks were slow and others were pretty quick (quick snaps). Bane actually blocked, dodged, caught some pretty quick attacks from Batman. Bane did some very quick attacks to Batman, arguable QUICKER than anything Batroc has done.
Batroc definitely can lands some blows. Bane can definitely defend against some of Batroc's attacks. This is not really debatable.
If it's irrelevant to the discussion, why did you bring it up?
But to address your response. Batroc is visibily faster than Bane. he is also visibily more skilled. thus the vast majority of Batroc's attacks will land and the vast majority of Bane's attacks will either be dodged or blocked.
This is Batroc's fight to lose.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If it's irrelevant to the discussion, why did you bring it up?But to address your response. Batroc is visibily faster than Bane. he is also visibily more skilled. thus the vast majority of Batroc's attacks will land and the vast majority of Bane's attacks will either be dodged or blocked.
This is Batroc's fight to lose.
Baleman being visibly slower than Batroc has nothing to do with Bane's ability to block attacks. That's why it was irrelevant.
Bane is stronger and more durable than Batroc. Batroc will probably do little with his strikes. One good blow from Bane can end Batroc.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Baleman's speed had no bearing on Bane's ability to block his attacks?This is the part where everyone just laughs at you.
The argument was whether Bane has the speed and skill to block attacks.
You are creating a strawman at this point.
I already related that Bane blocked, caught, etc some very fast attacks from Batman.
But none of this has nothing to do with what I said in the end about durability and strength and one good hit can end Batroc.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, the argument was whether or not Bane could block Batroc's attacks, not attacks in general. Therefore my point isn't a strawman.Who is slower and less skilled than Batroc.
Prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8
Bane has the necessary speed and skill to block attacks.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that Bane has the speed and skill needed to block attacks.
Speed is irrelevant if two characters are close enough to each other in speed.
Batroc didn't show great defensive skill. He got tagged a lot. Just flashy kicks and flipping (which don't really work in real fighting).
Originally posted by Silent Master
Even under that certain stipulation speed is still relevant, so no. I'm not lacking in reading comprehension. I'm just not allowing you to lie.
I stated "Close enough".
For example, two fighters can be within 99% of each other in speed. The faster WILL NOT determine the victor. Therefore speed, in that case, is irrelevant.
"enough" means to where it is irrelevant.
If speed difference is relevant, then that contradicts "close enough".
So again, you are lacking in comprehension.
Bane is stronger and more durable than Batroc. Batroc will probably do little with his strikes. One good blow from Bane can end Batroc.
Originally posted by h1a8
Batroc will probably do little with his strikes. One good blow from Bane can end Batroc.
Originally posted by h1a8
I stated "Close enough".For example, two fighters can be within 99% of each other in speed. The faster WILL NOT determine the victor. Therefore speed, in that case, is irrelevant.
"enough" means to where it is irrelevant.
If speed difference is relevant, then that contradicts "close enough".
So again, you are lacking in comprehension.Bane is stronger and more durable than Batroc. Batroc will probably do little with his strikes. One good blow from Bane can end Batroc.
Speed is only "irrelevant" because the guy you want to win is the slower character.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Baleman was affecting Bane with his strikes just fine in the final fight before the mask exploit.
Bane's punches connected with baleman and baleman wasn't out for the count.
Bane's right arm was also overpowered by Baleman's left arm.
It's all in the video I posted.
And I do think Batroc can make short work of Baleman.
Watch the movie again. Batman wasn't doing anything to Bane in their first fight. Batman used the mask weakness in the 2nd fight.
Stop trying to pick the lowest showings for the character you want to lose.
Bane busted through solid stone. That's well beyond anything from Batroc and busted Batman through his mask (busted the mask too).
Batroc will get in a few ineffective hits before getting stunned from a blow from Bane. Then Bane will finish him off.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Speed is only "irrelevant" because the guy you want to win is the slower character.
Wrong! Bane defended against attacks that snapped out in about the same time (or less) as any of Batroc attacks. Remember Batman has done quick attacks as well as slow attacks against Bane.