Bane vs Batroc

Originally posted by h1a8
Watch the movie again. Batman wasn't doing anything to Bane in their first fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Batman used the mask weakness in the 2nd fight.

Watch the second fight I posted were Batman was actually more prepared to fight Bane. Even though he was still over the hill and knees still bad. But he was at least in better shape and prepared.
Baleman was outfighting Bane and his strikes were affecting him just fine BEFORE the mask exploit. It was also shown Batman overpowering Bane as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bane busted through solid stone.

Go watch the clip I posted.

Here it is cause I know you're lazy or will try to ignore it.

YouTube video

Like I said, Batroc is both faster and more skilled. This is his fight to lose

Originally posted by Inhuman
The first fight Batman was out of shape, unprepared, and his knees were pretty much done.

Watch the second fight I posted were Batman was actually more prepared to fight Bane. Even though he was still over the hill and knees still bad. But he was at least in better shape and prepared.
Baleman was outfighting Bane and his strikes were affecting him just fine BEFORE the mask exploit. It was also shown Batman overpowering Bane as well.

I dont think it was a totally "solid" stone pillar based on screen evidence. Anyhow this is irrelevant, because we see Batman outfighting Bane in the final battle, and also we see Bane's strikes not KO Batman when he landed hit on him.
You are making it seem like Bane is 1 punch man. Hes not based on his screen fight i posted.

Go watch the clip I posted.

Here it is cause I know you're lazy or will try to ignore it.

YouTube video

None of Batman's strikes affected Bane before the mask weakness. Making Bane's head bounce slightly back isn't the same as affecting him. There was no damage or stun effect. If you disagree then give me the timestamp to where Batman affected Bane before the mask weakness.

And stop measuring Batman to Batroc. Batman wears armor and thus has a much greater durability than Batroc. Bane not koing Batman isn't a low showing for Bane but a good showing for Batman and his armor. And Batman was easily taking out humans before he fought Bane.

We don't pick and choose a character's worst over their all their other showings. That's trolling.

Bane busted a stone pillar. That's enough to kill Batroc, if not seriously stun him. Bane is a grappler too. If he grabs Batroc then it is over.

Batroc flips and has fancy kicks (that will do almost nothing to Bane). Batroc showed no defensive ability (block, dodge kicks and punches and grabs) and no grappling skills.

Bane will kill Batroc after a few minutes tops.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Baleman was affecting Bane with his strikes just fine in the final fight before the mask exploit.

Baleman also has quantifiably better striking feats, as opposed to "uh, I guess he knocked Cap over when he wasn't prepared for it".

Bane's punches connected with baleman and baleman wasn't out for the count.

A guy with quantifiably better strength and durability feats than Batroc wearing body armour can withstand Bane's punches. And this means Batroc can?

Bane's right arm was also overpowered by Baleman's left arm.

Baleman is physically much stronger than Batroc, and there is literally no feat you can bring that would dispute that. Not even "B-but Captain America!" since all he did was strike him and get punched up.

Bane is stronger than Batroc full stop, regardless of anything Baleman accomplished in his fight with him. Bane can lift over two hundred pounds with barely any grip above his head with one arm and can snap necks by squeezing. Batroc has literally no actual strength feats, just striking feats. How did you think this line of reasoning would hold up? If Baleman has actually outright overpowered Bane, then Baleman is just stronger than Batroc (and he is, he's had better strength feats since Batman Begins).

Without going around in circles for 5 more pages, the mask exploit is a valid way to win. OP didn't exclude it, so Bane loses either way.

How on hell is this thread still running?

Bane has no way of defeating Batroc.

If well Bane is stronger and maybe more durable than Batroc. Batroc is way faster, agile and overall a better fighter.

What's worse, if we compare Batroc to TDNR Batman, then Batroc would outclass Baleman in every aspect.

If Bale was able defeat Bane, then Batroc will definitely do.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
How on hell is this thread still running?

Bane has no way of defeating Batroc.

If well Bane is stronger and maybe more durable than Batroc. Batroc is way faster, agile and overall a better fighter.

What's worse, if we compare Batroc to TDNR Batman, then Batroc would outclass Baleman in every aspect.

If Bale was able defeat Bane, then Batroc will definitely do.

Batric never showed good defense. Just flashy kicks and flips. One good hit or grab then it is over.

Hell I'm convinced that Bane can sit there for a whole minute allowing Batroc to hit him without much affect. Bane can take a hit to deliver a hit or to grab.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Without going around in circles for 5 more pages, the mask exploit is a valid way to win. OP didn't exclude it, so Bane loses either way.

Batroc doesn't know about the mask weakness. Also he may not have the striking power to even affect it. After all, Bane took plenty of hits in the front of his face without the mask being affected.

A good hit from Bane will quickly turn the tides. Also Bane can grab him and do some serious damage.

Originally posted by h1a8
Batric never showed good defense. Just flashy kicks and flips. One good hit or grab then it is over.

Hell I'm convinced that Bane can sit there for a whole minute allowing Batroc to hit him without much affect. Bane can take a hit to deliver a hit or to grab.

Batroc doesn't know about the mask weakness. Also he may not have the striking power to even affect it. After all, Bane took plenty of hits in the front of his face without the mask being affected.

A good hit from Bane will quickly turn the tides. Also Bane can grab him and do some serious damage.

Except Batroc, who is a normal human, was fighting Steve Rogers who is a supersoldier.

You couldn't possibly expect good results from Batroc.

Do you agree that Batroc is in better condition than Baleman?

Well, how was standing while getting punched in the face by Batman ended up for him?

Originally posted by h1a8
Hell I'm convinced that Bane can sit there for a whole minute allowing Batroc to hit him without much affect.

Proof that you're too biased to debate this topic.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Except Batroc, who is a normal human, was fighting Steve Rogers who is a supersoldier.

You couldn't possibly expect good results from Batroc.

Do you agree that Batroc is in better condition than Baleman?

Well, how was standing while getting punched in the face by Batman ended up for him?

Baleman is stronger and more durable than Batroc. Bane taking hits without effect means that Batroc won't affect Bane either. Bane has bone crushing blows and has the ability to grab. We all know that fancy kicks and flips go out the window when someone grabs you.

Originally posted by h1a8
Baleman is stronger and more durable than Batroc. Bane taking hits without effect means that Batroc won't affect Bane either. Bane has bone crushing blows and has the ability to grab. We all know that fancy kicks and flips go out the window when someone grabs you.

Based on what? Baleman in TDKR was weak and old.

Based on what is he stronger than Batrock who is in peak condition and managing to fo against Cap?

You are forgetting speed and agility. Bane won't be able to tag Batroc.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Based on what? Baleman in TDKR was weak and old.

Based on what is he stronger than Batrock who is in peak condition and managing to fo against Cap?

You are forgetting speed and agility. Bane won't be able to tag Batroc.

There was no indication by the writer's that Batman was significantly weaker (in strength) than earlier Batman. Batroc has no strength feats above Batman.

Bane has made attacks that were visually as fast as Cap's attacks that landed. Batroc showed no defensive skill whatsoever, especially against being grabbed.