General Grievous vs. Wonder Woman

Started by h1a810 pages
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Diana has never speedblitzed anyone!

She doesn't need to.
Fact1: She can perceive bullets in very slow motion.
Fact2: Grievous is many times slower than a bullet
Fact3: She can move her limbs with the speed necessary to block bullets from 3-5ft away.

From facts 1 and 2, Grievous would be statued.
From fact 3, she can hit Grievous before he can move sufficiently to defend.

Originally posted by h1a8
She doesn't need to.
Fact1: She can perceive bullets in very slow motion.
Fact2: Grievous is many times slower than a bullet
Fact3: She can move her limbs with the speed necessary to block bullets from 3-5ft away.

From facts 1 and 2, Grievous would be statued.
From fact 3, she can hit Grievous before he can move sufficiently to defend.

Reflexes and body speed are two different things.

That's a fallacy. Grievous' robotic arms are fast enough to obliterate Jedi's, forcing guys like Obi Wan to have to predict the future. Also, Greivous has 4 while Diana only has 2. Also a moving bullet is different from a moving limb.

Moving limbs isn't the same as moving your body. Again, when has Diana speedblitzed anyone?

And how is she penetrating Grievous saber-shield?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Reflexes and body speed are two different things.

That's a fallacy. Grievous' robotic arms are fast enough to obliterate Jedi's, forcing guys like Obi Wan to have to predict the future. Also, Greivous has 4 while Diana only has 2. Also a moving bullet is different from a moving limb.

Moving limbs isn't the same as moving your body. Again, when has Diana speedblitzed anyone?

And how is she penetrating Grievous saber-shield?

Fact1: She can perceive bullets in very slow motion.
Fact2: Grievous is many times slower than a bullet
Fact3: She can move her limbs with the speed necessary to block bullets from 3-5ft away.

Grievous never moved his arms faster than normal human speed. You are basically disagreeing with fact 2. If you disagree then please post proof.
For future reference please state which statements or facts (by the number) you disagree with and then give your reasons.

Fact4: Grievous has no feats showing that he can perceive any speed close to bullet speed.
This fact isn't need as he would be statued from facts 1-3.

I wouldn't grant speedblitzing ability solely on the ability to dodge or block bullets. But I think WW has other feats too where she moves at blur speeds. Nothing too special, but surely above Grievous.

JLU WW vs Grievous would be interesting.

Nah I'm jk it'd be a slaughter.

Wonder Woman speed-blitz'd the first bullet after it was fired to save the first hostage, actually.

I do not view the fight as WW blitzing from a distance (closing the distance) at the start. I view the fight starts in close range. WW can swing and hit Grevious before he can respond.

Grievous has no projectiles to fire, he has to rely on melee combat and yes that doesn't require speedblitzing, he will be moving in slow motion to her.

Originally posted by h1a8
Fact1: She can perceive bullets in very slow motion.
Fact2: Grievous is many times slower than a bullet
Fact3: She can move her limbs with the speed necessary to block bullets from 3-5ft away.

Grievous never moved his arms faster than normal human speed. You are basically disagreeing with fact 2. If you disagree then please post proof.
For future reference please state which statements or facts (by the number) you disagree with and then give your reasons.

Fact4: Grievous has no feats showing that he can perceive any speed close to bullet speed.
This fact isn't need as he would be statued from facts 1-3.

Fact 1😛erception and movement speed are two different things!
Fact 2:You've presented 0 evidence whatsover that Diana can speedblitz anybody!
Fact 3: That doesn't mean she can move that fast.

I'll take that as if you have no idea who Grievous is. Grievous' arms are way faster than normal humans!

Fact 4:

This is because General Grievous is extraordinarily fast and his fighting style is made to take advantage of the weaknesses of the form the Jedi uses. He would put any Jedi on their back foot just because of his offensive output, 20 strikes per second!

Go ahead and tell me a normal human can deliver 20 strikes per second! You clearly have no idea who Grievous is.

Again, bring evidence that WW can move (her body) through a rain of lightsabers!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fact 1😛erception and movement speed are two different things!
Fact 2:You've presented 0 evidence whatsover that Diana can speedblitz anybody!
Fact 3: That doesn't mean she can move that fast.

I'll take that as if you have no idea who Grievous is. Grievous' arms are way faster than normal humans!

Fact 4:

Go ahead and tell me a normal human can deliver 20 strikes per second! You clearly have no idea who Grievous is.

[B]Again, bring evidence that WW can move (her body) through a rain of lightsabers! [/B]

You are now trolling. I'm going to start reporting you. My argument has nothing to do with perceptions and speed being the same thing. That's why I stated then AS DIFFERENT FACTS. I even numbered the facts to prevent you from trolling.

Her perceptions will make Grevious appear as a statue.
Her limb speed will allow her to strike Grevious once before he can move to defend.

Why do you keep mentioning blitzing?
She doesn't have to blitz. She just casually walks up to him and swings her sword once and it is over. She will swing the sword faster than Grevious can respond or act.

Note: pretend Grevious is allowed to swing his sabers. WW perceptions would freeze his motion and she will casually cut him in half while he's in a frozen state.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

I agree. But I bet Grievous slices her in half before she can even reach him.

Your over love for DC has always been a known arround here.

I know you would make that bet, you are something of a drooling retard.

And because you are widely-mocked by literally everyone on this board as a drooling retard with literally no one you can claim has a positive opinion of you, your attempt at shaming me for my "reputation" is hilarious. 😂

Originally posted by h1a8
You are now trolling. I'm going to start reporting you. My argument has nothing to do with perceptions and speed being the same thing. That's why I stated then AS DIFFERENT FACTS. I even numbered the facts to prevent you from trolling.

Her perceptions will make Grevious appear as a statue.
Her limb speed will allow her to strike Grevious once before he can move to defend.

Why do you keep mentioning blitzing?
She doesn't have to blitz. She just casually walks up to him and swings her sword once and it is over. She will swing the sword faster than Grevious can respond or act.

Note: pretend Grevious is allowed to swing his sabers. WW perceptions would freeze his motion and she will casually cut him in half while he's in a frozen state.

Your whole argument relies on Diana getting within limb range to hit Grievous.

My whole argument relies that she can't get within limb range, because such would require for her to move her entire body! You have been unable to prove that she is a speedster or that Grieovous won't be able to tagg her body!

Sure, perhaps her hands are small Millenial Falcons, but limb speed and body speed are different things!

So, are you sure I'm the troll here!?

Besides, you haven't proved that Grievous won't be able to react!

Greivous reflexes are clearly above human! Diana's arms might be superfast under human perspective, but Grievous is no human!

So, your entire argument line is a big fallacy!

Originally posted by NemeBro
I know you would make that bet, you are something of a drooling retard.

And because you are widely-mocked by literally everyone on this board as a drooling retard with literally no one you can claim has a positive opinion of you, your attempt at shaming me for my "reputation" is hilarious. 😂

You are a DC lover, your opinion is nothing but that of a blind man.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are a DC lover, your opinion is nothing but that of a blind man.

I guess that applies to you as well then.

You’re both a Marvel and Star Wars lover, if your sigs are any indication. So by your own logics, nothing you say say should be taken as truth. After all, you’re just a Marvel/Star Wars lover who’s opinions is nothing but that of a blind man.

Originally posted by SquallX
I guess that applies to you as well then.

You’re both a Marvel and Star Wars lover, if your sigs are any indication. So by your own logics, nothing you say say should be taken as truth. After all, you’re just a Marvel/Star Wars lover who’s opinions is nothing but that of a blind man.

The Tribunal is unbiased!

I've not always agree on a SW or Marvel victory, this is known.

And as you can see, I've already conceded that Grievous loses in a standard fight and that ROTS Grievous would lose in the sword-fight.

So, seriously now?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your whole argument relies on Diana getting within limb range to hit Grievous.

My whole argument relies that she can't get within limb range, because such would require for her to move her entire body! You have been unable to prove that she is a speedster or that Grieovous won't be able to tagg her body!

Sure, perhaps her hands are small Millenial Falcons, but limb speed and body speed are different things!

So, are you sure I'm the troll here!?

[B]Besides, you haven't proved that Grievous won't be able to react!

Greivous reflexes are clearly above human! Diana's arms might be superfast under human perspective, but Grievous is no human!

So, your entire argument line is a big fallacy! [/B]

The machine gun feat has her blitzing stop the first bullet AFTER it fired.
Diana also blitzed into the room.

Characters only get abilities from on screen feats. Grevious has no feats of reacting to Diana's speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
The machine gun feat has her blitzing stop the first bullet AFTER it fired.
Diana also blitzed into the room.

Characters only get abilities from on screen feats. Grevious has no feats of reacting to Diana's speed.

Again with that BS?

I clearly posted the clip where Diana anticipates the shot's trajectory!

I've already stated that I'm not debating ROTJ Grievous.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
no u
Nah dog you. 👇

By anticipating trajectory do you mean she watches it fly toward her and then blocks the bullet when it gets close?

Doesnt she blitz Superman in Justice League? To no effect cause its Superman. Can Grievous react to that??

Originally posted by KingD19
By anticipating trajectory do you mean she watches it fly toward her and then blocks the bullet when it gets close?

Aye.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Doesnt she blitz Superman in Justice League? To no effect cause its Superman. Can Grievous react to that??

She never blitzed Supe.