Can Superman Replicate Thor's glacier shattering feat?

Originally posted by h1a8
Thors heat possibly caused more damage as it flowed throughout the ice.

But thats irrelevant. You are changing the goalposts.
It's about power. I can cause a lot of damage to fluff objects over seconds or I can cause damage to a far more durable objects nearly instantly. Superman sliced through structural steel nearly instantly. He swipes the ground for a few moments and create devastating results.

Superman can achieve the feat with a punch.
Superman can punch more than 1/100th the speed of light. From the flash scene we see Superman throw his first punch as lightning from Flash travels and hits the statue. Lightning is about 1/3rd the speed of light. So if Superman punched with 1/30th of the speed of that lightning stroke (it was visually closer to 1/10th) then he punched with more than 1/100th of the speed of light. The kinetic energy he could impart in the ground is more than enough(more than 2e13J or more than 1/20th of a typical hydrogen bomb).

You forget, we saw those punches land and they didn't do 1,000,000th the damage you're claiming.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You forget, we saw those punches land and they didn't do 1,000,000th the damage you're claiming.

I said Superman's first punch. Not his other punches.
Also if we are to use real world physics for Marvel characters (Hulk) then it's only fair to do so for Superman.

Again, we saw some of his superspeed punches land and they didn't do 1,000,000th the damage you're claiming.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thors heat possibly caused more damage as it flowed throughout the ice.

But thats irrelevant. You are changing the goalposts.
It's about power. I can cause a lot of damage to fluff objects over seconds or I can cause damage to a far more durable objects nearly instantly. Superman sliced through structural steel nearly instantly. He swipes the ground for a few moments and create devastating results.

Superman can achieve the feat with a punch.
Superman can punch more than 1/100th the speed of light. From the flash scene we see Superman throw his first punch as lightning from Flash travels and hits the statue. Lightning is about 1/3rd the speed of light. So if Superman punched with 1/30th of the speed of that lightning stroke (it was visually closer to 1/10th) then he punched with more than 1/100th of the speed of light. The kinetic energy he could impart in the ground is more than enough(more than 2e13J or more than 1/20th of a typical hydrogen bomb).

Because cutting a steel beam in half is apparently just as impressive as destroying an acre of land in a single hit. /Facepalm

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because cutting a steel beam in half is apparently just as impressive as destroying an acre of land in a single hit. /Facepalm

In other words, slicing a steel beam instantly >>>>>> pushing over a domino that causes thousands to fall.

A single hit = a continuous blast of energy

But anyway I gave evidence that Superman can do it with a punch.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, we saw some of his superspeed punches land and they didn't do 1,000,000th the damage you're claiming.

Your argument is not based on what the movies show, therefore there is no need to address anything past what I already have. IE pointing out that you lied about Superman's punching power.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your argument is not based on what the movies show, therefore there is no need to address anything past what I already have. IE pointing out that you lied about Superman's punching power.

Lack of collateral damage is isn't always a lack of power. That concept doesn't get thrown out of the window. Kinetic energy still exists in the real world.

Otherwise Thanos, Hulk, Thor never hit any harder than 100 tons of force since there was no effect displaying that level of power. Thor doesn't have his star feat from because Scienc since it contradicts what is shown.

If you want to claim that "The kinetic energy he could impart in the ground is more than enough(more than 2e13J or more than 1/20th of a typical hydrogen bomb). " you have to provide proof from the movies.

Otherwise, you're a liar that is making things up because they're losing a debate.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to claim that "The kinetic energy he could impart in the ground is more than enough(more than 2e13J or more than 1/20th of a typical hydrogen bomb). " you have to provide proof from the movies.

Otherwise, you're a liar that is making things up because they're losing a debate.

I did provide proof. I calculated his punch speed.
Therefore he automatically will generate the necessary kinetic energy.

Punch speed proves kinetic energy

Originally posted by h1a8
I did provide proof. I calculated his punch speed.
Therefore he automatically will generate the necessary kinetic energy.

Punch speed proves kinetic energy

Fan calculations aren't proof.

Post proof from the movie that his superspeed punches hit that hard.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Fan calculations aren't proof.

Post proof from the movie that his superspeed punches hit that hard.

The movie stated Thor took the full force of a star, so to be fair. if you can supply a quote that states Superman hits with that level of power. we'll take your calculations.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The movie stated Thor took the full force of a star, so to be fair. if you can supply a quote that states Superman hits with that level of power. we'll take your calculations.

A character stated that, not the movie. And that's hyperbole to mean full heat of a star, since stars don't have outward net forces. But you still used calculations that went against what we saw.

Post proof of any goddamn thing for a change

So basically, h1 can't back up his claims with feats/statements from the movie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So basically, h1 can't back up his claims with feats/statements from the movie.

I did. I gave a calculation of how fast Superman can punch which gives the kinetic energy.

Your fan calculations aren't proof. We've seen his super speed punches land in the movies and they do not generate anywhere near the level of force you're claiming.

We seen how fast Superman can punch. Therefore he can automatically generate the necessary kinetic energy

Originally posted by h1a8
We seen how fast Superman can punch. Therefore he can automatically generate the necessary kinetic energy

We've also seen those punches land and they didn't generate anywhere near the force you're claiming