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Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I'm following the conditions, you're making things up. as usual.
Thor did it with a continuous blast of energy. It was ONE blast and therefore ONE strike. Therefore Superman can do it with One continuous strike of HV.
Originally posted by LordGod
Bingo. 👆Realistically all you'd have to do is take out a few of those pillars and the entire thing would then collapse in a domino effect. Pretty obvious that's what happened there IMO.
Afterall, we've seen Thor's lightning attacks strike the -solid- ground on several other occasions and it didn't cause anywhere near that level of collateral damage.
Although I agree with Jotunheim's surface being hollow and supported by pilars, the OP has stated that Superman has to replicate the feat in one strike.
In that aspect, he won't be able to cause the amount of damage the lightning did, as a direct impact from, per say, a punch would cause likely cause a straight through hole and not really a ripple effect.
The ripple effect was caused by massive amounts of electricity flowing through the ice and weakening several pilars, not just one.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Although I agree with Jotunheim's surface being hollow and supported by pilars, the OP has stated that Superman has to replicate the feat in one strike.In that aspect, he won't be able to cause the amount of damage the lightning did, as a direct impact from, per say, a punch would cause likely cause a straight through hole and not really a ripple effect.
The ripple effect was caused by massive amounts of electricity flowing through the ice and weakening several pilars, not just one.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
That's why I'm saying it's a similar feat. The initial shock wave is about the same size(when debris is being tossed into the air when thor strikes, not collapsing in on itself) and both lead to the structure collapsing.
Except the building didn't collapse. It took out a chunk off the face of the building but it didn't collapse. Thor's hit took out a good chunk off the face of the tundra but then also continued to collapse the surrounding area.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderGiven the context of Thor's feat, I think it's conceivable that Superman doing something like this to Jotunheim's surface-
Although I agree with Jotunheim's surface being hollow and supported by pilars, the OP has stated that Superman has to replicate the feat in one strike.In that aspect, he won't be able to cause the amount of damage the lightning did, as a direct impact from, per say, a punch would cause likely cause a straight through hole and not really a ripple effect.
The ripple effect was caused by massive amounts of electricity flowing through the ice and weakening several pilars, not just one.
Could absolutely weaken a few of the underlying pillars and cause a domino effect that crumbles the entire surface, like Thor's lightning blast did. Rock>ice, afterall, and Superman shattered the top of that mountain just by accidentally falling into it.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Thor did it with a continuous blast of energy. It was ONE blast and therefore ONE strike. Therefore Superman can do it with One continuous strike of HV.
No, because HV would just melt through the ice, not cause a massive shockwave.
Originally posted by LordGod
Given the context of Thor's feat, I think it's conceivable that Superman doing something like this to Jotunheim's surface-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JsJUWrCa2s&t=2m8sCould absolutely weaken a few of the underlying pillars and cause a domino effect that crumbles the entire surface, like Thor's lightning blast did. Rock>ice, afterall, and Superman shattered the top of that mountain just by accidentally falling into it.
How would Superman do that with one strike to the surface?
Originally posted by Silent MasterIf he just punches the surface from a standing position, he probably can't.
How would Superman do that with one strike to the surface?
But the OP asks if he has -ANY- striking feat comparable. And if he struck the surface of Jotunheim like he struck that mountain, it's conceivable that he could weaken some of the underlying pillars and cause a domino effect that crumbles the entire surface, like Thor's lightning blast did.
a.] There's no tangible "proof" that anyone can provide here, genius. Superman is a DC character, and obviously will never be in a position to fight frost giants on Jotunheim in the MCU, lol. All we can do is logically speculate and scale based on the feats he has preformed.
b.] Once the collapse is initiated by way of weakening the underlying ice pillars, basic engineering dictates that the entire structure is going to collapse as a result. That's how Thor's bolt brought down the surface; that's how Superman's "mountain strike" could conceivably do the same.
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Originally posted by Silent Master
No, because HV would just melt through the ice, not cause a massive shockwave.How would Superman do that with one strike to the surface?
Lightning is hot too. I didn't see any Shockwave. Even so, once enough ice is melted the structure will collapse. Superman can take all day if he wants. As long as it's ONE continuous blast.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Lightning is hot too. I didn't see any Shockwave. Even so, once enough ice is melted the structure will collapse. Superman can take all day if he wants. As long as it's ONE continuous blast.
A single strike is not the same as a single continuous blast. Thus the descriptive word "continuous".
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Originally posted by h1a8
Lightning is hot too. I didn't see any Shockwave. Even so, once enough ice is melted the structure will collapse. Superman can take all day if he wants. As long as it's ONE continuous blast.
Prove that Superman can fire a blast for that long.