Magneto vs Justice League

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Bro.. what? 😂

MY GUY this is from Exaclibur Vol.1 #50. Rachel CONFIRMS that Kate (811 Kitty) used a Post-Hypnotic Command to trigger the use of the portion of the PF that was INSIDE of Rachel when they were in Project Nimrod on Earth 811. That happened BEFORE she came to the 616.

AGAIN, you REALLY need to actually READ the comics, and NOT just rely on the OHOTMU entry. Remember, the OHOTMU entries DO NOT cover as much of the details as the comics do.:

Pages later. Merlyn is explaining how the 1st Feron and Necrom encountered a PF Avatar centuries earlier. That Feron was channeling a portion of the power of the PF.:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Next page. Merlyn CONFIRMS that Necrom TORE OUT the portion of the PF that was INSIDE of the 1st Feron. That's the portion of the PF that later became known as the Anti-PF when Necron bonded it w/ a portion of his own lifeforce. AGAIN, in order to get the FULL PROPER CONTEXT, you REALLY need to ACTUALLY READ the comics instead of relying on JUST the OHOTMU entries lmao .:

pages later. Rachel was getting beat by Necrom. The ONLY way to beat him was to give him so much of the PF's power that he'd overload and die. Rachel WILLED (more accurate to say ASKED) the PF to give Necrom more power than he can handle. That's the ONLY TIME that Rachel came EVEN CLOSE to channeling the FULL POWER of the PF. Even AFTER that, Rachel only had a PORTION of the PF inside of her. Remember, that Shi'ar Swordsman and his sword each had a portion of the PF, too, but their portion was MUCH SMALLER than what Rachel had.:

Exactly DS. He could give them some trouble. Could Be are the key words here, as most of the JL could individually at least on paper, give him a run for his money individually.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You could always make the argument that Magneto would beat one or two of the League, maybe, but the entire team?

Not unless it's one of those "let's make the villain look like a threat by getting the early win" kind of things.

Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly DS. He could give them some trouble. Could Be are the key words here, as most of the JL could individually at least on paper, give him a run for his money individually.

I was talking about him beating Superman tbf, the JL is debatable because per the op Mags has his shields up and his shields tanked attacks from powerful beings

Mags can even control gamma radiation, UV, light (this includes non-visible forms of light like x-rays), heat, and even gravitons using his Energy Control powers. Being that he has a history of haxing Earth's sun, it stands to reason that he should also have no problem manipulating solar radiation as well as cosmic radiation (which is basically equal to gamma radiation in its EM frequency). This scan is from a previous edition of the OHOTMU from the 80s.:

this is Pre Crisis Supes giving blood to Lana and Lois (IIRC). This means that he is most likely a Universal Donor (a term used in hematology) and that Kryptonians have blood iron content comparable and/or compatible to that of humans.:

an even OLDER scan. Notice that the doc confirms that Supes blood conforms (is compatible) w/ all 4 (known at the time) blood types. That means that he's a Universal Blood Donor at the time.:

So not sure why sure why Mags couldn't bloodbend him... or other things..

If I can see Supes punching through more durable things than Mags shield I'll concede

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I was talking about him beating Superman tbf, the JL is debatable because per the op Mags has his shields up and his shields tanked attacks from powerful beings

Mags can even control gamma radiation, UV, light (this includes non-visible forms of light like x-rays), heat, and even gravitons using his Energy Control powers. Being that he has a history of haxing Earth's sun, it stands to reason that he should also have no problem manipulating solar radiation as well as cosmic radiation (which is basically equal to gamma radiation in its EM frequency). This scan is from a previous edition of the OHOTMU from the 80s.:

this is Pre Crisis Supes giving blood to Lana and Lois (IIRC). This means that he is most likely a Universal Donor (a term used in hematology) and that Kryptonians have blood iron content comparable and/or compatible to that of humans.:

an even OLDER scan. Notice that the doc confirms that Supes blood conforms (is compatible) w/ all 4 (known at the time) blood types. That means that he's a Universal Blood Donor at the time.:

So not sure why sure why Mags couldn't bloodbend him... or other things..

If I can see Supes punching through more durable things than Mags shield I'll concede

What's harder than Magneto's shields in DC? Enlighten us.

Well, Alberto? What is harder than Magneto's shields in DC?

Yeah but if these guys have punched through it, it was in the past, so inadmissible

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, Alberto? What is harder than Magneto's shields in DC?

I need to see Supes reversing a high level intensity magnetic flux or something similar. Magneto shield isn't just a normal "shield" lmao

we've seen that Superman is vulnerable to EM users being capable of striping his solar radiation, are we really going to ignore that?

Magneto's force field can bounce objects off, repel when one gets close, etc

in uncanny xmen #113, he puts up a shield In time to protect against an angry phoenix jean

A laser that can be used to punch a hole through a planet was shielded when it was used to attack astroid M in the Mutant Genesis story line when he was betrayed by Cortez

Magneto has a very good Hax called Ferro-Fluid a material that he can use to bypass all conventional durability.

Mags has succesfully bloodbended Hercules, and She Hulk, but we ignore that because of a one time low showing?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I need to see Supes reversing a high level intensity magnetic flux or something similar. Magneto shield isn't just a normal "shield" lmao

we've seen that Superman is vulnerable to EM users being capable of striping his solar radiation, are we really going to ignore that?

Magneto's force field can bounce objects off, repel when one gets close, etc

in uncanny xmen #113, he puts up a shield In time to protect against an angry phoenix jean

A laser that can be used to punch a hole through a planet was shielded when it was used to attack astroid M in the Mutant Genesis story line when he was betrayed by Cortez

Magneto has a very good Hax called Ferro-Fluid a material that he can use to bypass all conventional durability.

Mags has succesfully bloodbended Hercules, and She Hulk, but we ignore that because of a one time low showing?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Havok at full power breaks through Magneto's force field (strongest force fields according to Emma).

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Later it was revealed that he was even further amped by MGH.

😂

And by teen Cyclops.

And then by Archangel.

Superman would oneshot Magneto.

Neither Hercules or She Hulk possess invulnerablity. They are really durable but not really invulnerable.

Your hate for Superman (to argue for any and every opponent to win against him) is getting pathetic and sad now.

Isn't Archangel a team wrecker now?

Also Magneto didn't survive that beam. It destroyed asteroid m and Magneto only survived because Chrome contained him in reentry.

So many lies.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Isn't Archangel a team wrecker now?

Nope.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you're randomly moving the goal posts again? Magneto's shields got broken by Havok.

And by teen Cyclops.

And then by Archangel.

Superman would oneshot Magneto.

Neither Hercules or She Hulk possess invulnerablity. They are really durable but not really invulnerable.

Your hate for Superman (to argue for any and every opponent to win against him) is getting pathetic and sad now.

who had help from kid jean who also has dropped galactus

Bruh, Mags was caught off against Archangel, didn't the same Archangel beat Phoenix when they traveled to AOA universe.

I'm out right now, I'll address those stuff when i come back

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
who had help from kid jean who also has dropped galactus

Jean absorbed a lot of psychic power to knock Galactus down. Here she only checked the weak points in his shield.

Bruh, Mags was caught off against Archangel, didn't the same Archangel beat Phoenix when they traveled to AOA universe.

No, that was death seed Archangel. And Phoenix actually chose Archangel.

I'm out right now, I'll address those stuff when i come back

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Nope.

Really? I'm almost 100% sure he was. I think he was portrayed as such in X Force back when they were fighting Shadow King

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Really? I'm almost 100% sure he was. I think he was portrayed as such in X Force back when they were fighting Shadow King

He had the Death Seed then iirc

Originally posted by abhilegend
Jean absorbed a lot of psychic power to knock Galactus down. Here she only checked the weak points in his shield.

No, that was death seed Archangel. And Phoenix actually chose Archangel.

😂

Mags was HOLDING back with the teen cyclops instance, did you even read the storyline?

it's OBVIOUS that you DID NOT READ that storyline where the scan is from. That scan is from the Age of X-Man event. Mags was being simultaneously AMPED to an UNSTABLE level and Mentally Dominated by Nate Grey. You need to stop w/ the random Google searches and start actually READING the comics.

This is why google should be supplemental. Magneto was coming as a *pacifist* after being mind controlled by Nate. He was trying to talk to them, not fight at that moment. Try again

Originally posted by abhilegend
Magneto has never done so, period.

What, forcefields? Dude destroys GL shields all the time.

Havok has blasted through Magneto's shields at full power.

Nonsense. He couldn't do anything like that to a random mutant whose only power was invulnerablity. He's going to do **** all to Superman.

Pauly (the mutant in question) was highly resistant to Mag's bloodbending. However, that DID NOT keep him from NEARLY getting killed by Mags. Also, IIRC, that fight was a scenario psionically played in Mag's mind and the minds of several others. You REALLY need to actually READ the comics instead of using RANDOM Google Search scans. Pauly would actually get haxed by Mag's bloodbend since Rogue has a history of getting haxed by Mags. Remember, she's had the True Invulnerability power for YEARS.:

BTW, Pauly's Invulnerability is NOT the same type as Supes since his is NOT based on a Solar Radiation variation of the Photoelectric Effect.

This is from Magneto: Dark Sedution #4. Mags was Perm Amped for the 3rd time here. He wasn't even in the area (until the next page) when he SIMULTANEOUSLY haxed Iron Man, contained Triatholon, and Bloodbended She-Hulk to make her KO Carol Danvers and then increase the Bloodbend on She-Hulk. BTW, She-Hulk has Gamma Radiation based Invulnerability. Thus, the claim that he can't bloodbend someone that has the Invulnerability power is NOT supported by the comics. You really need to READ the comics.:

BTW, Mags had NO PROBLEM Bloodbending a Full God. Herc learned this the hard way years ago. This scan is from a storyline that took place years after Mags got his 1st Perm Amp, but over 1 year BEFORE he got his 2nd Perm Amp. Does Herc have the Invulnerability power? YES. Thus, Mags would have NO PROBLEM Bloodbending Diana (Wonder Woman) and Aquaman.:

Polaris confirmed that Diana's armor (especially her bracers) can be haxed by Magnetic Induction. Remember, Magnetic Induction can be used to amp Voltage and/or to amp Electrical Current even in Real Life. He also confirmed that Bats has Taser circuits in his suit. Mags can hax that since he had NO PROBLEM haxing Iron Man in the Dark Seduction storyline.

BTW, Diana and MMH couldn't even use their speed when they were getting haxed. The ONLY one from that team who was able to use his speed is Flash and he was able to get away w/out being haxed.

This is from the SAME storyline. That Jokerized Dr. Polaris was able to keep Supes off-balance virtually throughout the majority of that storyline. Mags is WAAAAY FASTER in the use of his powers and WAAAAY > in power and skill than Dr. Polaris. Thus, he'd have NO PROBLEM doing that to Supes.:

This is from New Mutants Vol.1 #40. This is Mags HOLDING BACK against an Avengers team. It was during the time when he had been perm altered by Moira MacTaggert. He didn't find out about that alteration until YEARS LATER. He was perm amped a 2nd Time YEARS BEFORE this instance. Herc bear hugs him and thinks Mags can't break out. Mags has NO PROBLEM expanding his Force Field so fast and so powerfully that he nearly dislocates Herc's shoulders. BTW, he did that feat shortly after almost taking the full force of Namor's punch. This was during the time when Mags was the Headmaster of Xavier's School. Emma Frost had framed him because she knew that he was going to come after her due to her sending Empath to use his Emotion Control powers on him and some of his friends in order to influence Mag's decision of letting Emma have temporary guardianship over the New Mutants.:

This is from the Magneto: Dark Seduction #4. Mags is INSIDE of a sealed chamber that is restoring his full power, this is how he got his 3rd Perm Amp. Wanda, Lorna (Mag's daughter), and Pietro are each trying to stop him.:

Next page. Mags had NO PROBLEM using his powers to Lockdown the conscious use of their powers even when Pietro was using ALL of his speed to disassemble that tech. Remember, Pietro was MMMFTL at this time due to a Perm Amp he got from repeated and/or prolonged full body exposure to Isotope E BEFORE this storyline took place. Thus, the claim that he can't hax someone that's using Hyperspeed and/or Hyper-Running is NOT supported by the comics at all.: