Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, we did saw him tired when battling DD.And he has never speedblitzed for long time; moving at high speeds is energy consuming.
And still, you haven't proven that CM who can LS travel will be statued.
Logic, CM travels at beyond LS! Unless you can prove Superman can do that, he loses this misserably.
I have already demolished such notion in other threads.
Superman has no similar feat, CM wins.
It was a missile of unknown speed. It doesn't mean she can move around like a speedster like Superman can.
Serious question here: how fast did Carol have to travel with Nebula and Tony's spaceship to get Tony back to Earth before he died of lack of oxygen? Cause it was max, what, 24 hours from where Carol grabbed the ship then slew it through space back to Earth. Any mathbois on here? That could be an INSANE feat there.
I know we've established she's faster in space travel, but just wondering. Plot device speed? Ludicrous speed?
No way of knowing because we don't know where in space they were.
I took an online H1 math course though so I will give it a shot.
By my calculations she went at most maybe 20kmph. That's a high end estimate. On the low end somewhere around negative lightspeed. So average that out and there is the answer.
Fighting speed (reactions and movement speed within reaction time) is the only thing that matters.
Travel speed in space is irrelevant.
It has no bearing on anything in a fight.
Superman is stronger by feats and astronomically faster. She will be a statue the whole fight.
Without Superhuman, WW can solo.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
No way of knowing because we don't know where in space they were.I took an online H1 math course though so I will give it a shot.
By my calculations she went at most maybe 20kmph. That's a high end estimate. On the low end somewhere around negative lightspeed. So average that out and there is the answer.
Approved for peer review sir. 📖
Originally posted by Psychotron
I didn't ask how fast she travels, brain fart. I asked how does she counter Superman's COMBAT speed. We know Superman can make a statue of even Wonder Woman, who is a bullet timer herself, while Carol wasn't fast enough to stop Thanos from grabbing the power stone, nor dodge the attack itself.I've seen the Marvel movies the same amount of times as I have the DC ones - once, because they're all trash.
Concession accepted, you haven't watched Captain Marvel.
Those ballistic missiles are fast enough to reach the surface in 4s, as we saw they did back in Torfa at the beginning of the movie!
If Captain Marvel would have taken longer than that, the other missiles that she wasn't holding would have stroke the planet!
That means that the whole scene where she is holding the missile is taking within seconds of time, yet she is perceiving everything slower!!!
Seems you are done here!
Carol is faster and has way better reflexes than Superman, just give up
Originally posted by Psychotron
Where were those reflexes against Thanos?Surter reacted the same way a human getting stung by a bee would. After that he didn't even flinch from Hulk's anemic punches.
Good luck proving that. Based on the movies enraged Hulk = Hulkbuster << Cull Obsidian in strength.
Lol, what a fallacious comparison!!!
Except Surtur is covered with lava and was tanking gargantuan spikes casted by Hela without much of a flinch!
You are certainly trolling now, seems all your wildcards are gone.
Originally posted by h1a8
It took her seconds to react. Any human could have reacted in that time. What's shown >>>>> what you want to be true.
Science elludes you, just as much as reasoning!
The scene clearly portrayed time being enlongated while Carol was holding the missile!
What's worse, her vision wasn't blured by the missile moving arround 100km/s!
Now, go ahead and tell me a normal man would be able to react to being pushed at a speed of 100km/s!
Reallity>>>>>h1
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Concession accepted, you haven't watched Captain Marvel.Those ballistic missiles are fast enough to reach the surface in 4s, as we saw they did back in Torfa at the beginning of the movie!
If Captain Marvel would have taken longer than that, the other missiles that she wasn't holding would have stroke the planet!
That means that the whole scene where she is holding the missile is taking within seconds of time, yet she is perceiving everything slower!!!
[B]Seems you are done here!
Carol is faster and has way better reflexes than Superman, just give up
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Christ.
Let's make some honest observations here:
1. Carol has never shown combat super speed
2. WW has trouble fighting opponents without superspeed and, other than shoulder bashing Ares, we've never seen her actually speed-blitz a skilled opponent.
3. Superman is demonstrably faster than any of team MCU by quite a margin.
4. Superman is not strong enough to oneshot either Thor or CM
5. The only combatant here who actually has a feat of oneshotting a high-end opponent is Thor.
6. Strange can be one-shot by majority of team DCEU if he doesn't get his shields up.
7. If combatants don't have knowledge about each other, they'll be unprepared for team MCU's ability to BFR.
Originally posted by FrothByte1. Carol has never shown combat super speed
This is wrong, but true in the context of comparing her to Superman.
2. WW has trouble fighting opponents without superspeed
This is also largely wrong on a one on one basis, especially after her awakening at the end of her film.
3. Superman is demonstrably faster than any of team MCU
This is true.
4. Superman is not strong enough to oneshot either Thor or CM
This is also likely true.
5. The only combatant here who actually has a feat of oneshotting a high-end opponent is Thor.
Also probably true.
Anyway, Superman solos. 👆