Captain Marvel vs Hela

Started by Silent Master15 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
The movie states that on Asgard her power is limitless. That means, Outside of Asgard her power is limited.

If you continue to debate my intentions for Hela then I'll simply make another thread without Hela having a HF. So argue as if she doesn't here or I'll do it. Your choice.

Again, nothing you've said proves that Hela's healing factor is limited outside Asgard.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Double standards Rob?

None.

I made a typo, the credit scenes and the animation during the credits are two separate entities. The post credits scenes count as part of the film, an animation during the credits does not.

These count, the credit scenes:

YouTube video

There's no black hole feat

Limitless does not mean less than Carol's.

Hela killed Thor's hammer.

You people need to accept facts.

Make your own thread.

Please.

No HF is a gimp move.

Originally posted by Impediment
No HF is a gimp move.

So is stating CM is a full power and has access to all her feats, then saying that Hela only gets a tiny fraction of her feats.

But, it's h1. the guy might actually be the most biased poster on the board.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
You and Josh are cut from the same cloth.

Since when did we start making everything Odin says as "the word of God"

He also said "she draws her power from Asgard, as do you."

I stated Hela draws power from Asgard WHILE OUTSIDE OF ASGARD. I stated this multiple times. Why bring it up as if I didnt state it?

My argument is that Odin stated that while ON Asgard, Hela powers are LIMITLESS. That means that outside of Asgard, her power is LIMITED.

Originally posted by Impediment
No HF is a gimp move.

Taking away powers to force a win on one side.

Originally posted by h1a8
I stated Hela draws power from Asgard WHILE OUTSIDE OF ASGARD. I stated this multiple times. Why bring it up as if I didnt state it?

My argument is that Odin stated that while ON Asgard, Hela powers are LIMITLESS. That means that outside of Asgard, her power is LIMITED.

Which doesn't prove CM can overload her healing ability. so what's your point?

Originally posted by Impediment
Limitless does not mean less than Carol's.

Hela killed Thor's hammer.

You people need to accept facts.

Make your own thread.

Please.

Such a strength wasn't seen in her fighting with Thor nor Valkyrie, why should we take that feat into account here?

LOCATION IS NIL AND MEANINGLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HELA SMASHED MJOLNIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MVF GOLDEN RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F*CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Silent Master
So is stating CM is a full power and has access to all her feats, then saying that Hela only gets a tiny fraction of her feats.

But, it's h1. the guy might actually be the most biased poster on the board.

Hela gets acesss to all her feats except being able to heal indefinitely. My intention was that her healing would be limited (to prevent her from being unbeatable here). I can negotiate. She can heal for a limited amount of times or heal at a much slower rate and can die or be koed if the damage accumulated if great enough.

If no general consensus can be agreed on then Hela fights with no HF.

The MVF Golden Rule:

What is seen on screen is canon in these forums.

If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal.

MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

Originally posted by h1a8
Hela gets acesss to all her feats except being able to heal indefinitely. My intention was that her healing would be limited (to prevent her from being unbeatable here). I can negotiate. She can heal for a limited amount of times or heal at a much slower rate and can die or be koed if the damage accumulated if great enough.

If no general consensus can be agreed on then Hela fights with no HF.

It's too late for you to change stips, so you can't gimp Hela's healing ability.

Originally posted by Impediment
The MVF Golden Rule:

What is seen on screen is canon in these forums.

If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal.

MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

Your opinion is respected.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your opinion is respected.

That's my ruling.

Accept it or GTFO.

Rules are rules for a reason.

Back to topic, please.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's too late for you to change stips, so you can't gimp Hela's healing ability.

Then I'll just make another thread. No problem.

You guys think this is a spite one anyway.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then I'll just make another thread. No problem.

You guys think this is a spite one anyway.

Remember to use MVF Rules.

Originally posted by Impediment
That's my ruling.

Accept it or GTFO.

Rules are rules for a reason.

Am sorry, I quoted the wrong statement. I meant this:

Originally posted by Impediment
LOCATION IS NIL AND MEANINGLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HELA SMASHED MJOLNIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MVF GOLDEN RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F*CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In any case, the MVF rule benefits our case.

Hela's fighting scenes on Asgard (where she is more powerful according to the movie) lack the strength portrayed by Hela with Mjolnir. Why should we then assume she is going to be as strong in this fight?

Simply, we don't! This is a fight, ergo, an isolated strength feat as that should be left out!

If we are going to bring isolated feats into action, then the Black Hole feat for CM still gives her the win!

But, your opinion is respected, although not shared.

Can you not read, its not his opinion, its his Ruling, meaning thats the accepted state of affairs for this debate. Meaning thats the rule. Can you not read and understand this?

And you cant just ignore the feat, and I know why you are trying to, because you lost that BZ and have never accepted it as a valid strength feat.

Your making up your own rules and you have yet to concede the BZ you lost, hence what this all stems from.

I cant believe I even waste my time here with you trying to push simple logic through your head.