Captain Marvel vs Hela

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Can you not read, its not his opinion, its his Ruling, meaning thats the accepted state of affairs for this debate. Meaning thats the rule. Can you not read and understand this?

And you cant just ignore the feat, and I know why you are trying to, because you lost that BZ and have never accepted it as a valid strength feat.

Your making up your own rules and you have yet to concede the BZ you lost, hence what this all stems from.

I cant believe I even waste my time here with you trying to push simple logic through your head.

Imp is a mod not a judge. Inform yourself.

I've accepted the notion that the Mjolnir feat is a strength feat and discarded the use of magic on Hela's behalf, as accorded with Nibe.

And yet, that doesn't mean it determines battles, as it didn't determined the battle with Valkerye nor Thor.

Try thinking next time.

My ruling stands.

It's not an opinion.

Originally posted by Impediment
My ruling stands.

It's not an opinion.

Which ruling Impediment?

Originally posted by h1a8
Then I'll just make another thread. No problem.

You guys think this is a spite one anyway.

You certainly meant it to be spite, but go ahead and prove to the entire board how big of a troll you are by creating another thread because you didn't get the answer you wanted.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You certainly meant it to be spite, but go ahead and prove to the entire board how big of a troll you are by creating another thread because you didn't get the answer you wanted.

I don't like spite threads. This is a spite thread if Hela can heal Infinitely many times. But you are not against that spite are you?

If Hela can win with infinite healing then she can win with limited or no healing. Hela has the strength to hurt CM and the speed and reflexes to contend. How would it be spite? Hell Hela could still win a majority (debatable). She is far more skilled than CM.

I designed the fight to be debatable, and not a stomp in either direction.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't like spite threads. This is a spite thread if Hela can heal Infinitely many times. But you are not against that spite are you?

If Hela can win with infinite healing then she can win with limited or no healing. Hela has the strength to hurt CM and the speed and reflexes to contend. How would it be spite? Hell Hela could still win a majority (debatable). She is far more skilled than CM.

I designed the fight to be debatable, and not a stomp in either direction.

Sure you do, when you make them. first you make a thread that restricts Hela's feats and then back on page 1, you say this.

Originally posted by h1a8
The question is whether Hela can harm CM with her blades. If she cannot then this is either a stalemate (if one argues that Hela can regenerate indefinitely) or CM wins (Hela cant regenerate indefinitely).

Now here you are threatening to start a thread where Hela can't heal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure you do, when you make them. first you make a thread that restricts Hela's feats and then back on page 1, you say this.

Now here you are threatening to start a thread where Hela can't heal.

Originally posted by h1a8
So that the fight can be more even instead of lopsided.

Under the stips you want, you've stated that you believe CM wins. so how is that more even?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Pre-Ragnarok Thor you mean.

And sure, I can give you that, but nothing suggest she can penetrate Carol's energy shields.

Also did you notice that CM's blasts and punches did nothing to Thanos at all, Thor's lightning did far more damage compared to CM's blasts/punches that barely moved Thanos.
CM lacks the power output to hurt Hela.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Good.
Shields? The power stone punch wasn't the only thing that knocked Carol out. You know that right?

Also did you notice that CM's blasts and punches did nothing to Thanos at all, Thor's lightning did far more damage compared to CM's blasts/punches that barely moved Thanos.
CM lacks the power output to hurt Hela.

What else knocked her out?

Lightning had arround the same effect as the blasters. And the battle between Thanos and Carol was too short to determine a winner.

If we count the Asgard feats in, I support Hela, otherwise, Hela's power is unknown and therefore Carol wins by default.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What else knocked her out?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Lightning had arround the same effect as the blasters.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And the battle between Thanos and Carol was too short to determine a winner.

If we count the Asgard feats in, I support Hela, otherwise, Hela's power is unknown and therefore Carol wins by default.

It was enough to determine how powerful her offence was, which isn't enough to harm Hela.

Which Asgard Hela feat are you counting?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Under the stips you want, you've stated that you believe CM wins. so how is that more even?

Someone has to win. But CM will not win all 10. I would say she wins 6/10 maybe. I'm not sure.

It's almost a coin flip. My point is that it's not spite either way.

Originally posted by h1a8
Someone has to win. But CM will not win all 10. I would say she wins 6/10 maybe. I'm not sure.

It's almost a coin flip. My point is that it's not spite either way.

So you now believe that Hela's weapons can indeed hurt CM?

Originally posted by 9jaboy
The quantum tunnel exploding knocked her out briefly.

Not even close. Her blast barely moved a weakened and Dying Thanos. Nice try. Her punches were even worse. CM lacks the power output to hurt Hela period!

It was enough to determine how powerful her offence was, which isn't enough to harm Hela.

Which Asgard Hela feat are you counting?

Which tunnel?

And yet she was destroying battleships. Something a single lightning would certainly not replicate.

The only viable feat for this combat, for me, is the Valkyrie scene. The Mjolnir feat, although i've stated to portray strength, is pretty much useless in combat, since guys like Thor and Valkyrie weren't being smashed like tomatoes on Asgard (Where Hela is supposted to be stronger).

Even if Carol can't put Hela down (assuming her durability is as strong as on Asgard), Hela's normal necroswords would be pretty much useless against Carol's energy shield.

So, best case scenario, this is a tie.

Can someone post a clip of CM flying through a blackhole? I don't remember the scene and can't seem to find it in Youtube.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Which tunnel?

And yet she was destroying battleships. Something a single lightning would certainly not replicate.

The only viable feat for this combat, for me, is the Valkyrie scene. The Mjolnir feat, although i've stated to portray strength, is pretty much useless in combat, since guys like Thor and Valkyrie weren't being smashed like tomatoes on Asgard (Where Hela is supposted to be stronger).

Even if Carol can't put Hela down (assuming her durability is as strong as on Asgard), Hela's normal necroswords would be pretty much useless against Carol's energy shield.

So, best case scenario, this is a tie.

Problem is you don't have any proof that CM's shield can tank Hela's swords indefinitely.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Problem is you don't have any proof that CM's shield can tank Hela's swords indefinitely.

Nor do you that Hela can spam knifes indefinitely outside Asgard.

As this fight isn't likely to last indefinitely, why would he have to prove Hela can do something indefinitely?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Can someone post a clip of CM flying through a blackhole? I don't remember the scene and can't seem to find it in Youtube.

Originally posted by Silent Master
As this fight isn't likely to last indefinitely, why would he have to prove Hela can do something indefinitely?

Well, we don't know, as far as outside of Asgard Hela goes, she doesn't have what it takes to bring down Carol's shield.

Nor does Carol have the power to put down Hela, assuming she is as durable as on Asgard.