World Forger vs Chaos King

Started by TheHulkster10 pages

Originally posted by Diesldude
The power is his own. Striking the anvil doesn’t just create universes it does what ever he wants. Like replace a multiverse with another.

This kind of control points to external power source from the anvil. And that power source is the WF because he was created to forge universes.

Can he create a universe without the anvil?

No, he cant.

Are you guys sure about this?

OK I havent been able to find an instance of him creating a universe without the forge. But he created barbatos, his "pet" that consumes decaying universes.

Originally posted by carver9
No, he cant.

He can create the anvil anywhere he wants. Do, what's your point?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He can create the anvil anywhere he wants. Do, what's your point?

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009149/SmartSelect_20191105-235330_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009150/SmartSelect_20191105-235718_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009151/SmartSelect_20191105-235933_Chrome.jpg.html

He can?

Originally posted by carver9
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009149/SmartSelect_20191105-235330_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009150/SmartSelect_20191105-235718_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009151/SmartSelect_20191105-235933_Chrome.jpg.html

He can?


That's for replacing the multiverse, not creating anything. He created the anvil from nothing in Hall of Justice while weakened.

https://imgur.com/a/7M2rcxK

And he didn't need it to create universes before.

When are you going to stop lowballing?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's for replacing the multiverse, not creating anything. He created the anvil from nothing in Hall of Justice while weakened.

https://imgur.com/a/7M2rcxK

And he didn't need it to create universes before.

When are you going to stop lowballing?

That first scan proves that the power comes from WF.
He said that even in his diminished state every strike of the hammer can create a universe.
So basically even when weakened he can create universes.

Originally posted by carver9
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009149/SmartSelect_20191105-235330_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009150/SmartSelect_20191105-235718_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/45009151/SmartSelect_20191105-235933_Chrome.jpg.html

He can?

That's the Crisis Anvil... Not the same as the 'regular' Anvil that WF typically uses to hammer-out universes/multiverses/Hypertime.

In the scene you posted, WF was waiting specifically to use the Crisis Anvil, because he wanted to replace the existing multiverse with the new multiverse he had constructed, without attracting the attention of the Judges of the Source... And the best way to prevent the Judges from noticing what he'd done was by way of the Crisis Anvil.

But like abhi said: even in a greatly diminished state, WF can manifest/use his regular Anvil whenever(and wherever) he wants:

WTF is this argument now lmao.

Can Stark fire rockets and lasers without his suit? Can Hal do a. krona Buster without his ring? Can Thor manipulate energy without Mjolnir?

Not sure what all this stupidity is for, lol. Do we need to clarify that Hal has his ring when we create GL threads? Does Richard Rider need his helmet? Do we need to clarify that Quasar has his bands?

Ffs lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WTF is this argument now lmao.

Can Stark fire rockets and lasers without his suit? Can Hal do a. krona Buster without his ring? Can Thor manipulate energy without Mjolnir?

Not sure what all this stupidity is for, lol. Do we need to clarify that Hal has his ring when we create GL threads? Does Richard Rider need his helmet? Do we need to clarify that Quasar has his bands?

Ffs lol.

their goal has nothing to do with this thread. They are trying to prove that the power to create universes comes from not from WF but from the forge. So if that belief is accepted,WF can’t be considered multiversal thus paving the way for them to lowball Superman’s multiversal punch feat again. These guys are persistent, Ill give them that.

SMH. Nobody gives a rats ass about KMC Superman. The point that people are trying to make is that people using tools to perform a feat is very different from someone doing it without tools. As far as Stark and his lasers and missiles and the krona buster. Stark and Hal can do those things with tools, but the man Himself can be koed by Mike Tyson without shields or armor, but Tyson cannot ko Thor who used his hammer. Big difference. The question is. What category is WF in?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
SMH. Nobody gives a rats ass about KMC Superman. The point that people are trying to make is that people using tools to perform a feat is very different from someone doing it without tools. As far as Stark and his lasers and missiles and the krona buster. Stark and Hal can do those things with tools, but the man Himself can be koed by Mike Tyson without shields or armor, but Tyson cannot ko Thor who used his hammer. Big difference. The question is. What category is WF in?

What does it matter?

No one says Hal/Stark/Rider/Wendell are all street tier, do they?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WTF is this argument now lmao.

Can Stark fire rockets and lasers without his suit? Can Hal do a. krona Buster without his ring? Can Thor manipulate energy without Mjolnir?

Not sure what all this stupidity is for, lol. Do we need to clarify that Hal has his ring when we create GL threads? Does Richard Rider need his helmet? Do we need to clarify that Quasar has his bands?

Ffs lol.

Why are you coming in salty and ranting over a point Galen already addressed and we have moved forward from?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
SMH. Nobody gives a rats ass about KMC Superman. The point that people are trying to make is that people using tools to perform a feat is very different from someone doing it without tools. As far as Stark and his lasers and missiles and the krona buster. Stark and Hal can do those things with tools, but the man Himself can be koed by Mike Tyson without shields or armor, but Tyson cannot ko Thor who used his hammer. Big difference. The question is. What category is WF in?
you are so damn stupid.

the point is that world forger ALWAYS has access to his hammer and anvil. end of story. youre just trying to strip him of those for some reason because you are trying to lowball.......because you are a troll (and a bad one at that).

pathetic🙄

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why are you coming in salty and ranting over a point Galen already addressed and we have moved forward from?

Lol.

See JBL's post AFTER mine. Moved on, have WE? 😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

See JBL's post AFTER mine. Moved on, have WE? 😂

We had until you brought us back to it.

Ah, as I had seen no posts and nobody acknowledging and agreeing with Galan, I assumed you boys were still in disagreement with it. I mean, he hasn't posted anything new or unseen, so the fact that people were disagreeing meant that they MUST have been privy to some secret knowledge.

But it seems the scans are the same as had always been there 🙂

Originally posted by Diesldude
their goal has nothing to do with this thread. They are trying to prove that the power to create universes comes from not from WF but from the forge. So if that belief is accepted,WF can’t be considered multiversal thus paving the way for them to lowball Superman’s multiversal punch feat again. These guys are persistent, Ill give them that.
Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
SMH. Nobody gives a rats ass about KMC Superman. The point that people are trying to make is that people using tools to perform a feat is very different from someone doing it without tools. As far as Stark and his lasers and missiles and the krona buster. Stark and Hal can do those things with tools, but the man Himself can be koed by Mike Tyson without shields or armor, but Tyson cannot ko Thor who used his hammer. Big difference. The question is. What category is WF in?

See, they are trying to say that WF doesn’t have the power to create universes it’s all from the anvil.

This is after spending a month using the nuclear bomb analogy which was disproven, this is the next angle. trying to say that the Wf isn’t powerful enough to create universes because the power comes from striking the anvil. Lmao this is to knock him down a peg and make Superman’s feat less impressive. That feat has been gnawing at their but for over a month now. These mental gymnastics a are hilarious.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
you are so damn stupid.

the point is that world forger ALWAYS has access to his hammer and anvil. end of story. youre just trying to strip him of those for some reason because you are trying to lowball.......because you are a troll (and a bad one at that).

pathetic🙄

It's a moot point. The anvil has not shown any battle application. What's he going to do, start hammering out universes mid-battle? That's how he gets knocked out the last time.

So relative to battle would be that which he has achieved with what could be used in battle. Of course, he can swing a hammer in battle. In a universe creating contest, bring on the anvil.