Barbatos vs Chaos King

This is almost as bad as when Mr Master tried to argue that Thanos with the Heart of the Universe was "omniversal" because he called himself one with omni-reality, despite he fact that it was made abundantly clear throughout the story that it was just the universe.

Don't get me wrong, Mr Master is definitely one of the best posters here because he's one of the few that has read comics for God knows how long, and backs up his arguments with scans. But like anyone he can be a complete doughnut.

My point is that arguments based on semantics have no place on a battle board.

mr master posted scans that were often extremely misleading, and strategically cropped in such a way that any information that might contradict the "point" he was trying to make was removed.

the guy hasnt read a comic in YEARS. why do you think he constantly pastes the same damn MS word posts that he's been using for over a decade?

he can occasionally make a decent argument, but it's rare. more often then not his bs is called out for what it is......thats why he had to make like 6 different sock accounts to agree with him in these threads lmao.

Thank for the rundown guys. I had no idea how some of those things fit into place. So Astner or Mr. M, can you give the rundown on Barbatos? I saw CK do battle, where does Barbatos rank in fights? Or, do we just assume implied power based on narration?

Chaos King has been described as like Blackheart.
Mephisto could take him.

CK is shown well above Galactus and empowers Zeus to the point where he can hurt Galactus. Galactus is shocked that a "mere skyfather" can hurt him? So how can CK be only skyfather level when shown well.above Galactus?

Hasn't the argument of there cannot be a fraction of infinity been ridiculed here when posited by someone arguing for a Marvel character? If you can't have 98.7% of a Multiverse, then you can't have 100% of one. Thus a multiverse can't be destroyed. Of course in comics, you can have a fraction of a multiverse.

Multiverses are often called universes, but universes are not called multiverses.

The term used for Hercules is "All-Father". "All-Father" is a title, not a power level. Current Thor is the All-Father and he is just regular Thor powerwise.

Mikaboshi is skyfather level. After gaining enough power to become Chaos King, he becomes enormously above that.

Wasn't it confirmed by Oblivion in a later issue that Chaos King did indeed almost destroy the entire multiverse?

Whats the rest of that sentence?

Originally posted by Juntai
Whats the rest of that sentence?

Thats not what that says though.
It says Chaos War was just a prelude to the coming destruction of the multiverse. Or is there more to it I'm missing?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
CK is shown well above Galactus and empowers Zeus to the point where he can hurt Galactus. Galactus is shocked that a "mere skyfather" can hurt him? So how can CK be only skyfather level when shown well.above Galactus?

Hasn't the argument of there cannot be a fraction of infinity been ridiculed here when posited by someone arguing for a Marvel character? If you can't have 98.7% of a Multiverse, then you can't have 100% of one. Thus a multiverse can't be destroyed. Of course in comics, you can have a fraction of a multiverse.

Multiverses are often called universes, but universes are not called multiverses.

The term used for Hercules is "All-Father". "All-Father" is a title, not a power level. Current Thor is the All-Father and he is just regular Thor powerwise.

Mikaboshi is skyfather level. After gaining enough power to become Chaos King, he becomes enormously above that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Zeus owns Galactus and gets owned by skyfather Hercules.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well Ares survived the same blast and he is no skyfather. Also Hercules before he became All Father oneshotted the same Zeus.

What does this have to do with whether CK is only skyfather level? You last scan shows Zeus saying that every skyfather on Earth is needed to beat CK. How does a skyfather level being need every skyfather to beat him?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What does this have to do with whether CK is only skyfather level? You last scan shows Zeus saying that every skyfather on Earth is needed to beat CK. How does a skyfather level being need every skyfather to beat him?

That was a ploy from Chaos King to get to Earth pantheons.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well Ares survived the same blast and he is no skyfather.

Originally posted by zopzop
That's because by this point in the story, Death had fled the universe and the dead were walking around and the living couldn't die.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The dead were not more durable somehow. Hercules broke Zeus' body in the very same scans.

Originally posted by zopzop
Zeus' body was just a shell for the CK. He faked 'dying' to pull on Hercules' heartstrings and get him to reveal the Council of Godheads :

Hmm... Kinda like Astner's stuff about the "multiverse" with how the story progressed. Not buying the "skyfather level" stuff. CK was definitely > skyfathers at the very least towards the end of Chaod War.

Zop's scan on Oblivion heavily implies multiverse however("All Universes")...
hmm

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Zop's scan on Oblivion heavily implies multiverse however("All Universes")...
hmm

Yeah but it's heavily implied that CK "came so very close" to what Obliv wants to happen here.... Which is the "annihilation of all universes".

That there were more than one universe, Astner does not dispute.

It's that they weren't universe like universe 74849 and universe 3925, but instead places like Hell etc.....iow, all within the 616 u