Originally posted by Proper_
Yet still not a single planet busting or planet level feat.
IIRC, Supes fought that HP DD a year or more BEFORE he got perm amped from training w/ Mongul.
Yeah HP series takes place way before Superman v2 #151-153It's blatantly obvious that the Superman he fought in Doomsday Wars was an embarrassing low mid tier, but for some reason people think it's okay to act as if they can scale Doomsday off of Post-Crisis Supes' consistent power level. Not just Superman either, the same goes for the rest of the characters he fights, like there's people bringing up Cyborg Superman in this thread, but the Cyborg Supes that the Doomsday Clone defeated was knocked over by Nightwing, effortlessly had his core ripped out by Superman, and most importantly straight up split the clone in half with a bullrush first before the clone had his plot device adaption powers activate and became a Cyborg-Doomsday. It's absurd but people clearly have no intentions of stopping for whatever reason.
And the Hulk has been KOd by the Thing, by a snake, etc.....
Originally posted by carver9You do know that Superman isn't as powerful as current Superman due to he hasn't merged with his otherself during this period, And you do know that doomsday not exactly is the same doomsday who killed superman in DOS, Since he already evolved intelligence(He used strategy against superman) and faster and more ruthless than before
You do know current Superman fought DOS Doomsday again with the aid of Wonder Woman and didnt do so well?. The same Doomsday that Byrne Superman defeated. Why do you keep mentioning his comparison between Thor, Hercules and Superman? It's not helping your argument.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You do know that Superman isn't as powerful as current Superman due to he hasn't merged with his otherself during this period, And you do know that doomsday not exactly is the same doomsday who killed superman in DOS, Since he already evolved intelligence(He used strategy against superman) and faster and more ruthless than before
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If Superman have become MUCH more powerful, he should have been able to outright crush this version of Doomsday with ease. No matter how Savage he is. Also, Superman said he SEEMS more powerful, not that he IS more powerful. Huge difference.
Originally posted by carver9Because THAT superman didn't merge with his other self yet, It happened after Superman Reborn, IOW in this arc hes weaker compared to current Superman.
If Superman have become MUCH more powerful, he should have been able to outright crush this version of Doomsday with ease. No matter how Savage he is. Also, Superman said he SEEMS more powerful, not that he IS more powerful. Huge difference.
Originally posted by carver9
If Superman have become MUCH more powerful, he should have been able to outright crush this version of Doomsday with ease. No matter how Savage he is. Also, Superman said he SEEMS more powerful, not that he IS more powerful. Huge difference.
We see how it went with Damage.
Damage punched him harder than DoS Doomsday....but he wasn't phucked up as badly as with DD.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because THAT superman didn't merge with his other self yet, It happened after Superman Reborn, IOW in this arc hes weaker compared to current Superman.
The context outright said this Doomsday is more powerful than before, Hell, He even used strategy to against Superman.
Besides, Superman fought Doomsday more than once and he certainly know how powerful Doomsday was. From his perspective he thinking Doomsday was faster than before. So yes, Doomsday should be faster than before
Ok, I worded that wrong, he didnt say powerful, he said he seem FASTER.
Originally posted by carver9And I already explained to you, Superman fought Doomsday more than once, Then in this arc, From HIS perspective he thinking Doomsday was faster. So yes, Doomsday should be faster than before, Unless you want to say Superman just gives Doomsday hyperbole for no reason
If the word SEEM wasnt there, then yes, he wouldve been more powerful.
Originally posted by carver9
@Darksaint...And that's a terrible comparison since DOS Doomsday is the weakest version of Doomsday.
But you're missing the point.
Superman is now able to take punches that are harder than the ones that killed him. I am NOT making the comparison. DC are.
Is DoS the weakest Doomsday? Sure, why not. He still was able to physically beat DC's top herald to death with his bare hands.
That herald can now take that same beating. Can even take punches HARDER than the ones in that beating.
Again, not me saying this