Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed.And Kal was using his 5D Vision to perceive, track, and follow Kosmos through the timestream on a yoctosecond-by-yoctosecond basis. Why wouldn't that be applicable in a combat situation?
Perception Speed would be how fast your mind can process new information.
Combat Speed would be how fast you can throw a punch and avoid attacks at close range. Common sense, its not that hard to grasp
SAINT, Your mind thinks and acts more quickly then your body. There is always a delay in your brain signals, you'll tell yourself to move a certain way, but that information has to process and send the appropriate signals to various body parts to do what you want.
SO, no it's absolutely not a combat feat, because processing information and moving your body are two entirely different situations.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I said perception speed, not combat speed
you are really bad at this
perception speed is the most important part of combat speed
superman was moving billions pieces of moon rocks back to the way it was before moon was shattered. That's perception speed.
Originally posted by MrMind
now time for you to prove perception speed is unrelated to combat speed
Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed.And Kal was using his 5D Vision to perceive, track, and follow Kosmos through the timestream on a yoctosecond-by-yoctosecond basis. Why wouldn't that be applicable in a combat situation?
"Follow" is your addition. He only references tracking when mentioning yoctoseconds. There is no indication that he travels any distance other than the couple of feet necessary to exit his portal and even if he hypethetically does follow Kosmos, would it not still only amount to travel speed?
Originally posted by MrMind
you are really bad at thisperception speed is the most important part of combat speed
superman was moving billions pieces of moon rocks back to the way it was before moon was shattered. That's perception speed.
It is important yes, because the faster you can process information the better you can react to a situation.
However it does not dictate your actual speed in combat or your raw speed. Common sense
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It is important yes, because the faster you can process information the better you can react to a situation.
However it does not dictate your actual speed in combat or your raw speed. Common sense
don't move goalpost, you were saying surfer is faster than superman, you were proven wrong.
now this is an entire different topic, you need to use common sense,
combat speed is just perception speed with muscle movement
kal kent is a future more advance version of mainstream superman with fifth dimensional imps heritage. his strength and muscle movement scales higher than mainstream superman, his speed and agility absolutely scales to yoctosecond perception
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilBut Kal Kent doesn't need to kick your face off to engage in combat. He has TP, TK, Force Vision etc.
SAINT, Your mind thinks and acts more quickly then your body. There is always a delay in your brain signals, you'll tell yourself to move a certain way, but that information has to process and send the appropriate signals to various body parts to do what you want.SO, no it's absolutely not a combat feat, because processing information and moving your body are two entirely different situations.
What part of this are you struggling with?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
He makes the same point for Surfer. One's point is legitimate if they apply it consistently a cross the board.
Well...yes. I never said Surfer didn't have the perception feats? I am genuinely confused as to what point you're trying to make.
Is it that I'm hypocritical and have double standards? That's based on nothing. I didn't say Surfer didn't have the feats of fighting at extremely fast speeds (although truth be told, I didn't look at the numbers Alberto spewed).
So I guess we're all in agreement here. Kal Kent stomps.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But Kal Kent doesn't need to kick your face off to engage in combat. He has TP, TK, Force Vision etc.What part of this are you struggling with?
but how strong and useful in combat are those powers? failed to stop a charging galaxy. needed help from green lantern to contain solaris. those powers didnt help him against the else man. they didnt help him when he got one shotted by ultra man or when he got his ass kicked by batman 1 million. where were all his uber senses and perceptions or what ever when ultraman beamed his ass into the dirt? overall this is the comic book VS forum and we ask how well a specific character can fight. when it comes to thinking fast and tracking down, kal kent is awesome. when it comes to fighting someone, this guy gets his ass handed to him. his cool exotic powers are not so useful in combat as presented on panel.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are you assigning no credence then to the statement of him being immune to magic?And as for durability, what TP feats does he have?
TP? I mentioned durability... TP could be a way to circumvent durability i guess. But not sure on his tp stuff.