Not a trump fan at all but I agreed with his decision to kill the terrorist Iranian general. Trump is getting blame for the horribly disaster of the downed airliner. I’ve seen people accusing him of it all over the media. Ridiculous. Bumbling idiots are in control of the Iranian military. I honestly think they need to be neutralized before they cause any more “mistakes”
Originally posted by Stringer
Not a trump fan at all but I agreed with his decision to kill the terrorist Iranian general. Trump is getting blame for the horribly disaster of the downed airliner. I’ve seen people accusing him of it all over the media. Ridiculous. Bumbling idiots are in control of the Iranian military. I honestly think they need to be neutralized before they cause any more “mistakes”
Fcking A 👆
Originally posted by cdtmSo, your theory is that the Iranians randomly picked a plane to shoot down:
They wanted to murder US citizens, yet not admit they wanted to murder US citizen's while accidentally murdering their own people.Yet could not sweep it under the rug.
-In the hopes that there were American citizens on it (but didn't bother to verify first)
and
-Assuming that they would be able to cover it up even though the entire world is monitoring them and it was flying over Iranian airspace
I just wanna make sure
Originally posted by Tzeentch
So, your theory is that the Iranians randomly picked a plane to shoot down:-In the hopes that there were American citizens on it (but didn't bother to verify first)
and
-Assuming that they would be able to cover it up even though the entire world is monitoring them and it was flying over Iranian airspaceI just wanna make sure
No one accused them of being bright.
Originally posted by cdtm
They wanted to murder US citizens, yet not admit they wanted to murder US citizens while accidentally murdering their own people.Yet could not sweep it under the rug.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Anything becomes a target when people, or states are put into a corner. Scorched Earth becomes an acceptable option when no exit is available.
Your logic is way off, you don’t target “anything” when you are pushed into a corner. You target whatever is blocking the way. You don’t punch the baby beside you just because a stranger is blocking the path in front of you. That’s crazy talk.
Originally posted by NibedicusThis post shows how little history you have read and how little you understand individuals, movements and states, led alone reptiles and insects.
Your logic is way off, you don’t target “anything” when you are pushed into a corner. You target whatever is blocking the way. You don’t punch the baby beside you just because a stranger is blocking the path in front of you. That’s crazy talk.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
This post shows how little history you have read and how little you understand individuals, movements and states, led alone reptiles and insects.
Deflection. With a dab of appeal to history.
Also: irrelevant. Whilst individuals, movements, states, reptiles and insects can behave irrationally or illogically as per history, attacking “anything” is still logically and morally wrong and one cannot justify poor logic “because history”.
Wrong is wrong.
But if you have some insight we don’t have, why don’t you enlighten us?
So they get a pass for an “accident” because what they are Iranians?
Pay some fines...say $300,000 per wage earning passenger and $150,000 per non wage earning passenger. Plus the cost of the plane.
Then the Ayatollah can issue a note of regret rather than an apology and then pretty much undo that by saying "I will never apologize for Iran– I don't care what the facts are... I'm not an apologize-for-Iran kind of guy."
How does that sound?
Originally posted by Nibedicusyes wrong is wrong and like your assertation 48% is greater than 52% you are wrong here.
Deflection. With a dab of appeal to history.Also: irrelevant. Whilst individuals, movements, states, reptiles and insects can behave irrationally or illogically as per history, attacking “anything” is still logically and morally wrong and one cannot justify poor logic “because history”.
Wrong is wrong.
But if you have some insight we don’t have, why don’t you enlighten us?
Originally posted by Putinbot1
yes wrong is wrong and like your assertation 48% is greater than 52% you are wrong here.
“You are wrong but I will not argue where and how”. Is a bit of a childish tactic don’t you think, man?
We’re both adults here and I won’t troll you. I’d like to discuss these things if you are willing/able. Didn’t you once said you’re willing to discuss things when ppl try to be sincere?
Well, here I am. Let’s talk.
Perhaps I should expand. People in the American Hegemony often see groups as an entirety. For instance when Squal suggest all Afghan men in villages ****ed goats. The usual statements, no such thing as a moderate muslim. None of this is logical... neither is seeing all Americans as the great Satan, however when you tar a culture with a brush be it all muslims are bad, all whites are bad or all blacks are bad. Lashing out will take place against what's there to kick against. It's not logical, but it happens. Pal Pot (dead), Trump and many online posters do not like the educated... and lash out against the liberal intelligentsia. It's not logical either.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Perhaps I should expand. People in the American Hegemony often see groups as an entirety. For instance when Squal suggest all Afghan men in villages ****ed goats. The usual statements, no such thing as a moderate muslim. None of this is logical... neither is seeing all Americans as the great Satan, however when you tar a culture with a brush be it all muslims are bad, all whites are bad or all blacks are bad. Lashing out will take place against what's there to kick against. It's not logical, but it happens. Pal Pot (dead), Trump and many online posters do not like the educated... and lash out biologically against the liberal intelligentsia. It's not logical either.
Thank you! (Honestly) Least we got a discussion going.
And yes, I agree. Crazy, angry illogical people do crazy angry illogical things (for far more diverse reasons than what you mentioned above I might add). That’s the same logic terrorists do terrorist things.
Although, I also need to argue that a lot of people on Left are guilty of lashing out the same way (would have made your statement a lot more balanced if you mentioned that).
Anyway, I don’t see how that applies to a thread about a country accidentally shooting down a plane due to sheer incompetence and (from what I’ve read) EXTREMELY bad risk management decision making policies, I mean if you had to choose between letting America get thru to bomb one of your military installations and accidentally shooting down a passenger plane full of innocent people, you LET the Americans bomb your military installation, dumbass (not you, I meant whoever made the decision to shoot down the plane)?