Iran Shot Down Ukrainian Airiner

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Thank you! (Honestly) Least we got a discussion going.

And yes, I agree. Crazy, angry illogical people do crazy angry illogical things (for far more diverse reasons than what you mentioned above I might add). That’s the same logic terrorists do terrorist things.

Although, I also need to argue that a lot of people on Left are guilty of lashing out the same way (would have made your statement a lot more balanced if you mentioned that).

Anyway, I don’t see how that applies to a thread about a country accidentally shooting down a plane due to sheer incompetence and (from what I’ve read) EXTREMELY bad risk management decision making policies, I mean if you had to choose between letting America get thru to bomb one of your military installations and accidentally shooting down a passenger plane full of innocent people, you LET the Americans bomb your military installation, dumbass (not you, I meant whoever made the decision to shoot down the plane)?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I don't believe the shooting down was an accident.

Why would you think that? It seems highly out of character for them to shoot down a plane full of Iranians and 0 Americans (as per the last passenger manifest count I saw, 0 americans were killed) after they have shown ENORMOUS restraint in how they initially retaliated. Goes from 2 to 11 in my eyes.

Unless you think this was done by someone lower in the chain? Rogue general? Rogue operator?

Seems a bit far fetched to me...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Why would you think that? It seems highly out of character for them to shoot down a plane full of Iranians and 0 Americans (as per the last passenger manifest count I saw, 0 americans were killed) after they have shown ENORMOUS restraint in how they initially retaliated. Goes from 2 to 11 in my eyes.

Unless you think this was done by someone lower in the chain? Rogue general? Rogue operator?

Seems a bit far fetched to me...

Originally posted by Putinbot1
accidents like shooting planes out of the sky happen all the time I'm sure.

It’s happened before (America, with all its tech shot down a passenger plane itself) and the timing seems to jive (high alert, paranoid over possible retaliation, drones and aircraft being a go-to weapon of the enemy, etc).

The plane taking off during a high alert situation increases the chances of these things happening exponentially.

Personally, I 100% believe this was accidental.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
It’s happened before (America, with all its tech shot down a passenger plane itself) and the timing seems to jive (high alert, paranoid over possible retaliation, drones and aircraft being a go-to weapon of the enemy, etc).

The plane taking off during a high alert situation increases the chances of these things happening exponentially.

Personally, I 100% believe this was accidental.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
It’s happened before (America, with all its tech shot down a passenger plane itself) and the timing seems to jive (high alert, paranoid over possible retaliation, drones and aircraft being a go-to weapon of the enemy, etc).

The plane taking off during a high alert situation increases the chances of these things happening exponentially.

Personally, I 100% believe this was accidental.

Double post and won't let me edit seved to served, this forum 😂

Originally posted by Putinbot1
At least it seved to underline how many innocent lives might be lost in a conflict between the Americans and there allies, the GCC, UK and Israel and Iran.

War is never good man, too many innocents pay the price. S’why I give Iran a lot of credit over the restraint they demonstrated. It could have gone MUCH worse. Which is why I find it really difficult to believe that they’d shoot down a passenger plane on purpose. From 2 to 11 and whatnot.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
War is never good man, too many innocents pay the price. S’why I give Iran a lot of credit over the restraint they demonstrated. It could have gone MUCH worse. Which is why I find it really difficult to believe that they’d shoot down a passenger plane on purpose. From 2 to 11 and whatnot.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
we'll never, but it certainly underlined possible damaged and moved the narrative consequentually away from conflict.

Not getting what you’re saying here? Rephrase maybe?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Not getting what you’re saying here? Rephrase maybe?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
it underlined what people may lose and made people look away from conflict.

In what respect do you mean? Since I feel that there may be more than one way to interpret what you said, I don’t want to respond incorrectly so a bit more elaboration is needed.

Anyway, extremely jetlagged so I guess I’ll turn in for the night. Let’s continue this come morn. Later man!

Yes, and later mate.

Originally posted by Stringer
Not a trump fan at all but I agreed with his decision to kill the terrorist Iranian general. Trump is getting blame for the horribly disaster of the downed airliner. I’ve seen people accusing him of it all over the media. Ridiculous. Bumbling idiots are in control of the Iranian military. I honestly think they need to be neutralized before they cause any more “mistakes”

Feels odd that everyone except for the actual guilty people are getting blamed by some of these people (the Leftists).

Sit down, lads, I'm going to reiterate a deep truth:

This is why I say the left in the US is subversively racist. They think Persians and Arabs are so dumb, so out of control of their actions and decisions, that the only person to blame for this is the US Government and specifically Trump. That's definitely racist. These are grown adults (men, but if I bring their sex into the discussion, it might trigger them even harder). Making decisions to murder people. They are not mentally disabled. Just because they are Persians and Arabs does not mean they are incapable of making decisions on their own. They didn't need the US Military or Trump to make that decision. Is a woman's fault she was raped because of what she was wearing? Or is it the rapists fault for raping? Seems obvious, right? But not to them. They view Persians and Arabs as idiots because they are subversively racist. And no one likes to talk about how racist the Left is in the US.

Let's clarify my position:

Black people are intelligent and smart: fully capable of being every bit as great as any other race in the US.

Arabs people are intelligent and smart: fully capable of being every bit as peaceful and rational as any other people on the planet.

Thinking otherwise, either directly (right wing racists) or indirectly (Leftists), is just plain racism.

Of course they shot it down by accident.

Shit happens in war. Maybe best to just not go to war in the first place.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Feels odd that everyone except for the actual guilty people are getting blamed by some of these people (the Leftists).

Sit down, lads, I'm going to reiterate a deep truth:

This is why I say the left in the US is subversively racist. They think Persians and Arabs are so dumb, so out of control of their actions and decisions, that the only person to blame for this is the US Government and specifically Trump. That's definitely racist. These are grown adults (men, but if I bring their sex into the discussion, it might trigger them even harder). Making decisions to murder people. They are not mentally disabled. Just because they are Persians and Arabs does not mean they are incapable of making decisions on their own. They didn't need the US Military or Trump to make that decision. Is a woman's fault she was raped because of what she was wearing? Or is it the rapists fault for raping? Seems obvious, right? But not to them. They view Persians and Arabs as idiots because they are subversively racist. And no one likes to talk about how racist the Left is in the US.

Let's clarify my position:

Black people are intelligent and smart: fully capable of being every bit as great as any other race in the US.

Arabs people are intelligent and smart: fully capable of being every bit as peaceful and rational as any other people on the planet.

Thinking otherwise, either directly (right wing racists) or indirectly (Leftists), is just plain racism.

It was an accident in the sense that, while they meant to shoot something down, they probably didn't intend for it to be a commercial plane.

Still, they chose to launch the attack.

So in less than a week a major Iranian murderer was killed in Iraq, his government then proceeded to “accidentally” shoot an Iranian plane down. Lie about it, bulldoze the evidence, then claim responsibility.

There are massive Pro American Protests in Iran demanding the leaders step down. Trumps Arabic Tweet was retweeted more times than any other Arabic tweet in history and somehow the media has turned it into an anti Trump narrative.

You might not like Trump or everything he does or says but this is beyond the pale. If you can’t see How stupid the media is now I feel sorry for you.

Originally posted by Hapless ape
Of course they shot it down by accident.

Shit happens in war. Maybe best to just not go to war in the first place.

Who said anything about going to war?

Originally posted by Supra - Ultra Instinct
Who said anything about going to war?

I noticed you changed his name to "Hapless ape" and got very confused. lol