Coronavirus

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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
With possible reactivation going on. The health care can't cope as it is, so distancing is flattening the curve and it is. So the measures are working and protecting the elderly and vulnerable.

Hur derp. 🤪

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Hur derp. 🤪
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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
With possible reactivation going on. The health care can't cope as it is, so distancing is flattening the curve and it is. So the measures are working and protecting the elderly and vulnerable.

Really hoping that there were simply flaws in testing methods, and that there is no such thing as reactivation. If not, that's pretty terrifying

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Really hoping that there were simply flaws in testing methods, and that there is no such thing as reactivation. If not, that's pretty terrifying
viral reactivation is relatively common biologically. The big question is, is Covid19 doing it?

Herpes is the most well know virus for doing this.

Fauci was on CNN today and Jake Tapper was once again trying to get him to talk shit about Trump lol.

This has become ridiculous. They are so thirsty.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/12/anthony-fauci-coronavirus-covid-19-shutdown-tapper-sotu-vpx.cnn

And he doesn't take the bait.

herpes is just a nuisance, and typically you really have to go out of your way to catch it from someone. shingles is more sinister, but you don't become contagious again

the thought of a deadly air-born reactivating virus is terrifying to me.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
herpes is just a nuisance, and typically you really have to go out of your way to catch it from someone. shingles is more sinister, but you don't become contagious again

the thought of a deadly air-born reactivating virus is terrifying to me.

Me too, yeah my dad had shingles when I was in my teens, it stays in the basal ganglia if I remember correctly.

Haven't seen much nationl coverage about this but this soldiers home is about 15 min from my house and its freaking alot of people out around here. Many are trying to get family members out of elderly homes like these but dont have the means and they are terrified.

I dread the day (if it comes) that i have 2 put my mom in a home. I couldn't imagine doing it when something like this is going on.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/new-coronavirus-death-at-holyoke-soldiers-home/2106230/%3famp

"The number of veteran deaths at the Holyoke Soldiers’ Home has now climbed to 37, with 31 testing positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus.

State health officials said another 76 veteran residents have also tested positive for the disease, as have 43 employees."

Some stories have slightly different numbers, new facts keep coming in and a doj investigation has been opened. Hopefully someone finds out whats been going on around there.

Originally posted by Raptor22
Haven't seen much nationl coverage about this but this soldiers home is about 15 min from my house and its freaking alot of people out around here. Many are trying to get family members out of elderly homes like these but dont have the means and they are terrified.

I dread the day (if it comes) that i have 2 put my mom in a home. I couldn't imagine doing it when something like this is going on.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/new-coronavirus-death-at-holyoke-soldiers-home/2106230/%3famp

"The number of veteran deaths at the Holyoke Soldiers’ Home has now climbed to 37, with 31 testing positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus.

State health officials said another 76 veteran residents have also tested positive for the disease, as have 43 employees."

Some stories have slightly different numbers, new facts keep coming in and a doj investigation has been opened. Hopefully someone finds out whats been going on around there.

A friend of mine is matron in a uk nursing home she says loads of the elderly have died, I asked her, how often they die normally, she said two or three a year, they have had 4 from this already. It's worse than Flu.

I honestly don't understand this whole talk about virus's deadliness. Yeah, it's dangerous, but no, it isn't a threat to the survival of the humanity, but it doesn't have to be.

It's terrifying however, how easily it spreads and how long the treatment often is. Okay, not that many people require hospitalization, but quite a lot do, and lots of people require some basic medical care, and simply no country's healthcare can provide enough healthcare if it spreads out of control.

Even the nearly indestructible healthcare of Germany is pushed hard beyond belief, they're managing it with insane results, their death ratio, their results are overall incredible, but they're still pushed to their maximum. Countries as advanced as France are falling. Italy and Spain are essentially ravaged.

This whole panic and lockdowns are needed so that we don't have people dying when they would be perfectly safe if given proper care that won't be available if the pandemics spread too much. And we already see that happening.

So I'm really easily supporting the lockdowns, when reasonable. What's happening in Poland, and it kills 40% of the economy, is not reasonable - people need their money to survive other sicknesses, to have food and not to die in the streets. But overall, the policies used by most countries are very reasonable, just my cesspool of a country is a failure as usual.

It's extremely frustrating that we don't have the test results we need from serological tests (antibody tests).

The UK was on tract to start giving us great results to tell us how truly wide spread this is. But their antibody test turned out to be bunk and they had to abandon it. The FDA approved one on the 10th that turns out to be highly accurate (but not extremely accurate). California has already started testing, 2 days ago. They should have results available, now.* They did what I said needed to happen: simple random samples to try and get a population representative statistic. Another California study is doing something similar for 3000 people but I don't think it uses good sampling methods so it may not be representative of the population (I think theirs is First In, First Out, self-selection which has massive problems in the statistics community for getting representative samples).

We are so close yet still so far. I want these damn results. These results mean everything to next steps. If it is 60-90% of the population like some studies have shown, we can all immediately return back to our normal lives except for the elderly and the vulnerable. If it is just 1%, even with the current mortality rate of .6%, that's still a resurgence.

*Where are the results? Starting the study means they have the participants, approval, methodology, etc. During an emergency or epidemic, it shouldn't take but a few hours to compile the results. They have research AI program that can literally write up the entire study automatically including doing the math - they just have to enter the results. This is part of the frustration. "Getting 1,000 serological tests completed in 2 days is hard." Yup, it's the weekend. But with how urgent this is, you'd think they'd have a team of 100 or so, with 10 tests each, visiting each of the pre-selected random samples.

Dealing with a pandemic as a nonbinary person

"Also: ‘Do you have a fever?’ Well if you count my skin burning up with anger whenever someone refers to me as ‘he’ then yes. Yes, I do. On a regular basis.

Oh, and I also have health anxiety so even *telling* me about the outbreak of a virus is damaging to my mental wellbeing."

Just shut down these satire websites cuz they just don't come off like satire anymore lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Dealing with a pandemic as a nonbinary person

[b]"Also: ‘Do you have a fever?’ Well if you count my skin burning up with anger whenever someone refers to me as ‘he’ then yes. Yes, I do. On a regular basis.

Oh, and I also have health anxiety so even *telling* me about the outbreak of a virus is damaging to my mental wellbeing."

Just shut down these satire websites cuz they just don't come off like satire anymore lol. [/B]

Poe's Law.

Silver lining: seems only men and women are dying from this virus so non-binary folk are safe!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
A friend of mine is matron in a uk nursing home she says loads of the elderly have died, I asked her, how often they die normally, she said two or three a year, they have had 4 from this already. It's worse than Flu.
And I've been in hospital and saw some old guy with it. He was vomiting regularly and having fits.

Then again, so was I.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's extremely frustrating that we don't have the test results we need from serological tests (antibody tests).

The UK was on tract to start giving us great results to tell us how truly wide spread this is. But their antibody test turned out to be bunk and they had to abandon it. The FDA approved one on the 10th that turns out to be highly accurate (but not extremely accurate). California has already started testing, 2 days ago. They should have results available, now.* They did what I said needed to happen: simple random samples to try and get a population representative statistic. Another California study is doing something similar for 3000 people but I don't think it uses good sampling methods so it may not be representative of the population (I think theirs is First In, First Out, self-selection which has massive problems in the statistics community for getting representative samples).

We are so close yet still so far. I want these damn results. These results mean everything to next steps. If it is 60-90% of the population like some studies have shown, we can all immediately return back to our normal lives except for the elderly and the vulnerable. If it is just 1%, even with the current mortality rate of .6%, that's still a resurgence.

*Where are the results? Starting the study means they have the participants, approval, methodology, etc. During an emergency or epidemic, it shouldn't take but a few hours to compile the results. They have research AI program that can literally write up the entire study automatically including doing the math - they just have to enter the results. This is part of the frustration. "Getting 1,000 serological tests completed in 2 days is hard." Yup, it's the weekend. But with how urgent this is, you'd think they'd have a team of 100 or so, with 10 tests each, visiting each of the pre-selected random samples.

couldn't agree more, it's really vital for the course of the world

has anyone tried curing this with cowbell just sayin

Vaccines and RNA and malaria vaccine.

First major French study results are in with HCQ+Az and it is overwhelmingly positive:

Seems to be a tremendous result. All patients had severe COVID-19 symptoms and were 75 or older.

Original source (it is in French):
https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/covid-19/

Result shows a new mortality rate of .4% which is tremendously smaller than the population average for the same age category.

Originally posted by dadudemon
First major French study results are in with HCQ+Az and it is overwhelmingly positive:

Seems to be a tremendous result. All patients had severe COVID-19 symptoms and were 75 or older.

Original source (it is in French):
https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/covid-19/

Result shows a new mortality rate of .4% which is tremendously smaller than the population average for the same age category.

WHAT THE F*CK!

This is awful. Why couldn't they just die? Don't they realize how this makes Trump look?

I'm f*cking fuming. I am angry.