Originally posted by dadudemon
He clearly botched what they were talking about but UBI doesn't mean "Universal Basic Income" in this context.It means Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation.
Here's a study from 2016 that I found:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4783265/
And some research has been done with it. Russia seems to use it a lot more than us westerners.
It seems to be more effective against viruses. Here's one such limited study on Hep-C:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2331205X.2019.1614286
Five UVBI treatments were administered to 10 patients in 3 weeks. Viral loads and markers of hepatic inflammation were assessed before and after treatment. The patients were treated with a modified Knott Hemo-Irradiator (AVIcure Bioscience, LLC). After five treatments in nine of the patients, the mean percentage change in viral load was −56.0% and the mean change in log viral load was −0.60 (p = 0.017). During the study, seven of 10 patients demonstrated a > 0.49 log reduction in viral load. There were no significant adverse events. UVBI was safe in all patients and effective for the treatment of HCV infection in a majority of patients (IDE #G030242). This device should be studied for the treatment of other infectious diseases for which there are few treatment options.And there are currently 2 FDA approved therapies for this.
And for putting a disinfectant directly into your body (which sounds absolutely absurd but...hey, science!), they actually have researched this with mixed results (anywhere from smoke and mirrors to promising). The only one I can think of is H2O2 stuff but we are digging deep into my memory because I thought this was more about cancer than disinfectant in nature.
But, hey, they still tried to research it:
Lack of antibacterial activity after intravenous hydrogen peroxide infusion in experimental Escherichia coli sepsis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3888840
I cannot find ANYTHING about a nebulized disinfectant being appropriate for inhalation. It seems he really really didn't know what he was talking about.
And nothing comes to mind. I cannot remember anything in the deep recesses of my mind that would be appropriate for disinfecting the lungs.
https://fortune.com/2020/04/24/trump-disinfect-lungs-lysol-warning/
In fact, I only find evidence that disinfectants are more likely to harm medical care workers from constantly inhaling them over the years:
Originally posted by dadudemon
I've been bothered why NY has so many damn cases and deaths for COVID-19.NYPost wrote an article that details how SOME (not even a majority) of the deaths can be explained: a terrible policy from Cuomo to re-house elderly, who had tested positive, in elder-care facilities.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/cuomo-coronavirus-nursing-home-policy-proves-tragic-goodwin/
Maybe NYPost hates Cuomo? Did he really have that much power to basically kill a lot of old people with his "orders" to re-house old people with each other, sick and unsick?
There was an antibody study done in New York a few days ago that suggested possibly 20% of the population there may have had coronavirus, which would bring their death rate in line with what it is elsewhere.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I've been bothered why NY has so many damn cases and deaths for COVID-19.NYPost wrote an article that details how SOME (not even a majority) of the deaths can be explained: a terrible policy from Cuomo to re-house elderly, who had tested positive, in elder-care facilities.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/cuomo-coronavirus-nursing-home-policy-proves-tragic-goodwin/
Maybe NYPost hates Cuomo? Did he really have that much power to basically kill a lot of old people with his "orders" to re-house old people with each other, sick and unsick?
Isn't New York pretty self explanatory?
What with it being a center of commerce, immigration, arts, tourism, social hob knobing and such?
Just stands to reason if everyone wants to be there, they may carry some unintended things with them.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it's ultraviolet or very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're going test it. Supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going test that too. Sounds interesting.And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute.
And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number in the lungs. It would be interesting to check that. You're going have to use medical doctors with that, but it sounds interesting to me. And so we'll see."
"yes mister doctor president, that's a great idea, we'll put all our resources into that *slurp* mmm yeah, cum all over my face"
"One of the hallmarks of the dangerously stupid is the consistent belief they've found great solutions that experts somehow missed." -Craig Mazin
Trump should lead by example and inject himself with a disinfectant then, show everyone just how smart and safe it it.
Though if anyone is going to be stupid enough to try this, it's going to be a Trumper. So he's only hurting his own followers again.
Originally posted by cdtm
Isn't New York pretty self explanatory?What with it being a center of commerce, immigration, arts, tourism, social hob knobing and such?
Just stands to reason if everyone wants to be there, they may carry some unintended things with them.
No. Because there are other cities with far larger daily influxes of people from all over. NYC cannot be explained and the only thing I could find was one decision from Cuomo that may have contributed to 1/3 of the deaths. Only 1/3. That doesn't explain NJ and the other 2/3 of deaths.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
https://local.theonion.com/man-just-buying-one-of-every-cleaning-product-in-case-t-1842493766?utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Twitter&utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=trueThe Onion a month ago.
😂
Been said before, but Trump's going to put The Onion out of the satire business.
lol, research on using light against bio-weapons:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3925713/
Wow, I had no idea Trump's rambling had so much substance in real science.
Originally posted by RobtardAlmost like if you say something vague or broad enough, throw in a few "humble" 'I don't knows' and say everything in a tone that implies possibility and suggestion, your supporters and detractors can each come away with something while you still get to play the "I didn't actually commit" card as public attention focuses on the Nothing that you just rambled instead of the Something that you should/shouldn't have done.
Trump telling people to get some sun, isn't so much of a problem. Trump telling people that injecting disinfectant does wonders for the lungs, is.
NY released their figures on antibody testing.
Long Island, 16.7%
New York City, 21.2%
Westchester/Rockland, 11.7%
The rest of state 3.6%...
Cuomo said if the 13.9% statewide infection rate holds true, that would suggest a total amount of infections of around 2.7 million statewide, with a 0.5% death rate.
To that last part, the words used are not correct. It suggests a that of the people who would show the antibodies, exposure and immunological response is present in 2.7 million statewide. As has been pointed out, before, young teens and children are likely not to show antibodies even if they were exposed and successfully fought of the virus.
What we get from these antibody tests are a minimal "floor" limit for who was exposed. However, logically, if 1 in 5 people show the antibodies, anyone who didn't hide in a bunker was exposed to the virus, multiple times, and in multiple locations.