Coronavirus

Originally posted by Robtard
That's a long and highly defensive way to dodge a simple question.

You said:

"Yeah, if we have an annual flu vaccine and still we end up with tens of thousands of deaths each flu season, I'm unsure what type of protection reduction we are considering.

What did deaths per capita look like before we got hip with annual flu vaccines? In other words, what was the reduction? From what I read, it was 20%-35%. That's a ton of lives saved but it will never be "safe enough" to re-open America if that's the standard people are wanting." -DDM

I'm asking your opinion on whether or not you specifically believe we need a vaccine for covid-19. Not what other people believe.

And I directly addressed your dishonest question in my reply. You have not addressed my reply and, instead, have doubled down on your idiocy.

Address my reply instead of doubling down.

Start here:

That's not in my post at all nor is it implied.

You have the entire post quoted. There's no excuse for this type of ignorance.

What's your objective with this dishonesty?

If you are not honest enough to admit you tried to strawman my point with a loaded question, you're not worth engaging and are wasting time.

If you're honest enough to admit you tried to strawman my position with a loaded question, we can continue. If not, I'll just skip - not interested in these types of convos that you have with Surtur.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hell speaking of testing, people are always comparing our numbers to other countries...and then when Trump touts our testing numbers a reporter is all "why do you keep comparing them?" which lead to the whole "ask China" thing.

So damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. No wonder the guy is frustrated.

It's assinine. They need more Americans to die and all the bad news to happen related to SARS-CoV-2. The more bad things, the better.

They absolutely did not want so many people to be showing antibodies, without symptoms. It destroys the whole narrative about how deadly this was. So they have to attack the idea that antibody test results do not mean you won't get sick from the disease your body is expressing antibodies for that indicates it just fought off the virus. Holy shit, this is retarded.

Basically, just because you have the antibodies does not mean you will be immune. However, for literally almost every single person, this will be true. Since scientists and doctors know how real science works, they cannot and will not generally commit to absolute wording like that. It's also just a guess. It could be as low as ....90% or some random very high number.

A dishonest question would have been "why do you want people to die?", that's not what I did. I'm asking whether you think a vaccine is necessary here with covid-19 or not, from your personal pov. If you already said something along the lines of "No, I don't think it is" or "yes, I do think it is", I missed it. You do you though, you're impossible when you get like this.

Originally posted by Robtard
A dishonest question would have been "why do you want people to die?", that's not what I did. I'm asking whether you think a vaccine is necessary here with covid-19 or not, from your personal pov. If you already said something along the lines of "No, I don't think it is" or "yes, I do think it is", I missed it. You do you though, you're impossible when you get like this.

No, it was a dishonest question because I never said or implied that.

However, I did directly answer you dishonest question, here (and so did Fauci):

Originally posted by dadudemon
In other words, vaccines are not a silver bullet. Fauci has said this himself - a combination of therapies is how you fight these things. Vaccines will not be the end all be all.

Which was my original point: if they are not good enough to combat our seasonal flu, we will reduce COVID-19 deaths by likely similar percentages. Percentages that will never be enough to ever justify re-opening if the justification for keeping the world locked down is what it is.

It will never be realistic.

As I've posted before, coronavirus is documented to mutate more slowly than flu viruses. That's good news.

What you have demonstrated, lately, is you are not reading my posts. You're reacting to a persona with stances that do not represent what I'm actually posting. A persona that you see overlapping with Surtur and his positions. Because you argue with for thousands of pages over the last 5 years. Thousands.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, it was a dishonest question because I never said or implied that.

However, I did directly answer you dishonest question, here (and so did Fauci):

What you have demonstrated, lately, is you are not reading my posts. You're reacting to a persona with stances that do not represent what I'm actually posting. A persona that you see overlapping with Surtur and his positions. Because you argue with for thousands of pages over the last 5 years. Thousands.

Okay I'm starting to almost feel bad. What if I truly did break him somehow? I'm a f*cking monster.

@ddm I didn't ask you on what levels of protection we can expect from a covid-19 vaccine. You're replying to a question I didn't ask. Anyhow.

Your angle is to try and get me mad so I insult you. Sorry, not going to happen. Your fight with Bash is your own, leave me out of it, told you this several times.

The doctors office called earlier today and scheduled an appointment for me on June 11th. The reason I mention this is because lately I've done appointments over the phone, but now they seem to think lockdown orders will not be extended beyond the end of May here because they said I can come in person.

Originally posted by Robtard
@ddm I didn't ask you on what levels of protection we can expect from a covid-19 vaccine. You're replying to a question I didn't ask. Anyhow.

A person who was being honest would see I directly addressed your question. But you're not being honest.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your angle is to try and get me mad so I insult you. Sorry, not going to happen. Your fight with Bash is your own, leave me out of it, told you this several times.

I have no fight with PVS. But noted that you're replying with a "no u" about me pointing out how Surtur has pretty much ruined your ability to engage in honest discussion.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay I'm starting to almost feel bad. What if I truly did break him somehow? I'm a f*cking monster.

You should feel bad. He was one of the best GDF contributors until you came along and ruined his ability to honestly engage in discussion.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You should feel bad. He was one of the best GDF contributors until you came along and ruined his ability to honestly engage in discussion.

I just ordered this book called "Empathy For Beginners" so hopefully by this time next week I'll be able to feel bad!

Awesome team-up 👆

Anyhow. We just crossed 85k, looks like we could hit 90k by mid next week or earlier in the US, depending.

Originally posted by Robtard
Awesome team-up 👆

Anyhow. We just crossed 85k, looks like we could hit 90k by mid next week or earlier in the US, depending.

So far, Oklahoma is at 0 deaths. I really hope this trend continues. My coworker in TX reports they are still going ape-shit with the fear and hysteria. That's unfortunate.

I hear that the largest gathering of people in the US (for the last 1 or 2 months) happened in Oklahoma last week. It was for drag races. haermm

It doesn't get more red neck than that...setting records. WEEEE! My brother went. He said it was awesome.

Believe it or not non-rednecks do drag races, I've seen them here.

Originally posted by Surtur
Believe it or not non-rednecks do drag races, I've seen them here.

And a few of the rednecks attending the drag races attend other kinds of drag races, too!

lol, it's funny because closeted rednecks.

tee hee

I live on a small reservation and I’m hearing we got 11 cases in one day. At risk populations exist and given the myriad of poor health conditions in Native country and the example of how badly it’s effecting the Navajo up north this has the potential to really be terrible for some of the people where I live

Originally posted by dadudemon
Boy, this statement of yours sure showed me for mocking medical professionals twerking over dead bodies on tiktok.

Definitely a win entry for your diary. 👆

Stay classy DDM! Get out your diary and be sure not to practice social distancing because we all know thats just a bunch of bullshit created by the media. Hang out in large crowds in the most populated areas just to prove everyone here wrong!

All fake news.

MAGA

dur

Originally posted by Stringer
Stay classy DDM! Get out your diary and be sure not to practice social distancing because we all know thats just a bunch of bullshit created by the media. Hang out in large crowds in the most populated areas just to prove everyone here wrong!

All fake news.

MAGA

dur

😂

Originally posted by carthage
I live on a small reservation and I’m hearing we got 11 cases in one day. At risk populations exist and given the myriad of poor health conditions in Native country and the example of how badly it’s effecting the Navajo up north this has the potential to really be terrible for some of the people where I live

I hope all is well for you and your community. Best of wishes, man.