Coronavirus

Originally posted by Tzeentch
So you're asserting that he's bad because he didn't resign from his position (and possibly go to jail assuming he leaks classified info) out of protest. What a appeal to emotion. If he retired/got fired for insubordination he would have just been replaced by someone even more useless.

It's clear that your beef is actually with how the system itself functions and not the man.

There is nothing classified about pandemic remediation measures. Just open your eyes and look at what other countries are doing. There is no secret information here. The issue is that he had no problem going on television every single day, and minimizing the situation, because that is what Trump wanted to do, and now 400,000 people are dead, and 4,000 more are dying each day. Too bad he cared more about keeping his job than actually being good at it.

I think the point is no matter what, the situation would be the same. There could of been a thousand medical advisers but the Trump presidency would of required them to do the same thing. That's how the system works.

For instance, Prime Minister Stephan Harper muzzled scientists, forbid them to communicate with the the press...everything had to go through the PMO office. If they talked, they are fired but they are also government employees so they are required to do what the elected party requires.

No, the point is that dishonesty is not part of the job description. If my boss asked me to misrepresent data to make the performance of his department look better, and I did it in order to keep my job, it would not only be unethical, but it would be a terminable offense in and of itself. Everyone who goes along to get along is just as bad.

I got my second dose of the Moderna vaccine 2 days ago. And the first 36 hours or so after was a pretty rough time. Fever, headache, fatigue, etc. Much worse than the 1st dose.

But I think I'm through the worst of it. I feel very fortunate.

Now, for those new strains that keep popping up... 😕

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, the point is that dishonesty is not part of the job description. If my boss asked me to misrepresent data to make the performance of his department look better, and I did it in order to keep my job, it would not only be unethical, but it would be a terminable offense in and of itself. Everyone who goes along to get along is just as bad.

What would you say to the people trying to stay onboard to help as many people can. Cause I know some people do stuff like that to keep their job because they think they can steer some of the ship to better destinations which they can't do if they aren't there.

Originally posted by Newjak
While I do think hiding information like this from the public does more harm than good.

What would you say to the people trying to stay onboard to help as many people can. Cause I know some people do stuff like that to keep their job because they think they can steer some of the ship to better destinations which they can't do if they aren't there.

That is what all the Trump enablers said, and look how things turned out.

If Trump had replaced fauci with someone calling the virus a hoax, we would be even more screwed. Fauci did what he had to do. He was in a lose lose situation

His biggest mistake was telling people initially that Masks don’t help

True. I think it was a plot e to keep masks for health care workers, but he should have just told the truth on that one.

US is about to cross 460k

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Hooray!

We going to hit 500K well before March 1st it seems.

Originally posted by Robtard
US is about to cross 460k

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Depending on how accurate those numbers are.

I hear from both sides that they're fudged, the right claiming they're too liberal linking Covid to unrelated deaths, and the left saying there's cases where room for interpretation caused deaths to be declared non Covid, when they really should have been Covid related.

When both sides are accusing each other of essentially the same thing, that's when it's time to worry, that's how we got Brexit ffs.

Originally posted by cdtm
Depending on how accurate those numbers are.

I hear from both sides that they're fudged, the right claiming they're too liberal linking Covid to unrelated deaths, and the left saying there's cases where room for interpretation caused deaths to be declared non Covid, when they really should have been Covid related.

"This is a virological hoax." You're not one of those thinkers, are you?

But even if we cut the deaths down by 50%, we're still going to be at 250K soon. In reality though, those 450+K numbers are probably pretty close.

One thing that's bugged me for a while, is the muddiness over how it gets classified. As in, imagine a man or woman, say, 80 years old, is relatively healthy. They get covid, but the covid itself doesn't kill them. The pneumonia they get from their now-weakened immune system does.

How does that get classified? Sure, the pneumonia killed them, but they didn't have pneumonia before they got covid.

Covid deaths aren't from the virus directly. They're from an immune system overreaction called a cytokine storm which essentially punches holes in the lungs allowing fluids from the blood in which then cause bacterial pneumonia. Its the same mechanism that's causing covid patients to die from multiorgan failure. The cytokine storms can wreck the kidneys, liver and heart. This is why a lot of people have seemingly been recovering well from the lung infection, have started feeling a lot better, then died from heart attacks.

It can also wreck your balls.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Covid deaths aren't from the virus directly. They're from an immune system overreaction called a cytokine storm which essentially punches holes in the lungs allowing fluids from the blood in which then cause bacterial pneumonia. Its the same mechanism that's causing covid patients to die from multiorgan failure. The cytokine storms can wreck the kidneys, liver and heart. This is why a lot of people have seemingly been recovering well from the lung infection, have started feeling a lot better, then died from heart attacks.

It can also wreck your balls.

What does it do to balls?

I’ve actually noticed I’m much hornier after COVID.

Originally posted by Robtard
What does it do to balls?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30415-6/fulltext