Coronavirus

Originally posted by dadudemon
An analysis of US deaths, for any cause, by all ages, was finally completed by JHU. Similar to the UK findings, COVID-19 deaths have 0 affect on the overall death data.

JHU deleted their article because it exploded and people posted it everywhere.

But not before it got archived. 🙂 People got it archived and we can see the overview of the research:

The article is a good read. Turns out that Artol's comments back in April were right: these elderly would have died within the year, anyway.

And, there is a "sudden decline in deaths" in multiple categories during the pandemic but a massive increase in respiratory related deaths. Indicating, quite clearly, that we changed how we classified causes of deaths on paper but the actual causes of death are due to the same problems as before (the comorbidities that the average COVID-19 patient has are the reasons they die because almost no one dies from SARS-CoV-2 who contracts the virus).

https://web.archive.org/web/20201122214034/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

However, this does not explain the loss of life from depression, violence, drug use, suicide, stress, immuno-suppression, etc. But as some European countries discovered, the lack of "activity" reduced deaths in some areas (car accidents, for example) so the increase in deaths in one area may be offset in another leaving the overall deaths pretty much unchanged.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, it's computer modelled, but it's reliant on mutations of specified sequences not happening, I'll grant you that. What we know from 3.5 billion years of mutation is we don't really know and can't predict much with certainty. Especially when the virus is only made of around 1300 amino acids land it only takes about 10 changed to mutate it in the ways it has been in the present variants, we don't know how many mutants are out there our how fast it mutates. In about 100 mutations this vaccine probably won't work, how fast it gets to that and if changing the vaccine payload in response will cause side effects is also unknown. Tertiary structures can be a *****. -edited for clarity.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
further clarification 100 distinct mutations

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Yes, there were those of us who were paying attention, but some of us overestimated, presumably...but not by much.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
why should it matter that someone is literally 20x more likely to die with the novel coronavirus than with the flu, which killed 61,000 americans in the 17/18 flu season. so there's a potential of around 1 million americans dying from it. not a big deal, because reasons

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Yes, there were those of us who were paying attention, but some of us overestimated, presumably...but not by much.

this prediction will come true.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
all the smart people get vaccinated, and covid will eventually be known as "trailer park fever"

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this prediction will come true.

DDM was always a weird and obvious nutjob. He was highly eloquent, though.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yup, it honestly was getting pathetic, how he got away with it and didn't get banned is a mystery to me, that said I never reported the obvious gaslighting bullshit. However, I am well aware he was spamming his report button over me and so were his pals. So on reflection the mods did a good job.

All that gaslighting while the US alone has had 576K covid deaths to date and rising.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

So anyone know what the US laws are if work conflicts with a covid shot, and you gave proper notice in advance but they ****ed it up?

Because all the information out there only talks about dealing with employee's who don't want it. Nothing about whether they're as obligated to allow it as any major medical thing..

Originally posted by cdtm
So anyone know what the US laws are if work conflicts with a covid shot, and you gave proper notice in advance but they ****ed it up?

Because all the information out there only talks about dealing with employee's who don't want it. Nothing about whether they're as obligated to allow it as any major medical thing..

Things are getting better... It only took Prince Phillip to die 😂

so apparently the j&j vaccine is not so great

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so apparently the j&j vaccine is not so great

Thanks New Jersey.

🙂

dick bag

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so apparently the j&j vaccine is not so great

Apparently, AstraZeneca is not either.

All the Covid-19 vaccines, including even the somewhat shoddy Russian one, are about equally as good at preventing serious cases of the disease.

no. this thread has seen quite enough misinformation. pfizer and moderno are both >90% efficacy. the problem with j&j is not efficacy (though it's significantly lower) but rather possibility of dying from a blood clot.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no. this thread has seen quite enough misinformation. pfizer and moderno are both >90% efficacy. the problem with j&j is not efficacy (though it's significantly lower) but rather possibility of dying from a blood clot.

okay, but blood clots are the reason that the j&j vax is being halted.

I am thought rob was cali?