Neither isGuy Gardner his ring, or Quasar his Negabands, it Tony his armour.
So in future threads, if people ask for most powerful versions of Tony, they'd better not name armours lmao, unless it's like Extremis or something.
And if I ask for most powerful versions of Thor, it better not be Thor with any equipment lol.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I got one. Is Ultron actually Pym? Cuz it's literally his brain engrams. And it's actually fully autonomous. By your logic Ultron is more Pym than TR is Clark and therefore composite Pym includes Ultron
No, Ultron isn't Pym because Ultron is fully autonomous, like you said
But yes, we DO include Pymtron in our versions of Pym...
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilIf you making a thread asking which version of hal is the most powerful, I'm sure Hal w Krona's Power Gauntlet will be there. 🙂
TR is NOT at ALL Superman. You drive a car. Is the car YOU? Supes isn't even the creator of the armor or even the sole energy powering it. It's like a goddamn mecha driven by consciousness rather than joysticks. It's a thing. An object. A weapon. It is NOT Clark Kent/Kal-El and therefore not Superman and not actually a factor in composite Superman.
DC says it's an object. So it is. And an object cannot be a version of a being. Amazo isn't an object because he posseses his own consciousness.
Can TR exist without Ultra Man? Nope. So it isn't Superman. It's a cosmic weapon powered by two beings
Controlling a robot isn't a version of a character. It's someone controlling a robot. Period. And it's actually two characters, so....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, exactly.Otherwise we don't.
Because Ultron is FULLY autonomous. The TR isn't.
and TR still ISN'T Superman. it's not a version of superman, Its it's own character, even the monitors call him a robot
EXPLAINED right here. ONLY infused with their essence ....it is in fact not Superman. Literally a damn weapon lmao
its NOT a form of the character. That's the point.
Sinestro and Hal's actual being were part of those fusions. It has nothing to do with Ultraman being g a part of the equation. It's that a machine isnt Superman. The Destroyer armor isnt composite whoever's energy empowered it. Not unless they physically inhabited the armor. Cant just slap an S on a robot and call it Superman...
Originally posted by -Pr-
Really feels like people are just splitting hairs for no real reason, tbh.It's a suit of armour Superman wore to fight Mandrakk. Just like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne or Hal Jordan or Rhodey wears a suit of armour/piece of equipment to do battle. I'm not seeing the issue here.
Basically.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Really feels like people are just splitting hairs for no real reason, tbh.It's a suit of armour Superman wore to fight Mandrakk. Just like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne or Hal Jordan or Rhodey wears a suit of armour/piece of equipment to do battle. I'm not seeing the issue here.
Except he wasn't in it though
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I think this is a stretch, because ideally a better question would be which is the most powerful armour for Tony or Superman in Kryptonian battle armour vs Lobo etc. The version of armour is Iron Man, not usually Tony, hence others have been Iron Man, bar mind control, alternate realities and body Swap Kal El is Superman.
Neither isGuy Gardner his ring, or Quasar his Negabands, it Tony his armour.So in future threads, if people ask for most powerful versions of Tony, they'd better not name armours lmao, unless it's like Extremis or something.
And if I ask for most powerful versions of Thor, it better not be Thor with any equipment lol.