Originally posted by -Pr-
Like I said: Splitting hairs.The result of combining Superman/Ultraman is controlled by Superman, being the dominant personality. He's in the driving seat.
and still not actually there. TR was built before he was born
All the TR is is a piece of equipment powered by Superman's (along with others) essence. It literally existed before he was born
Originally posted by Putinbot1
but Firestorm was both Ronnie Raymond and Stein, they were the Matrix.
And we both consider them to be Firestorm, don't we? And even then, one drives the body, while another acts as a kind of advisor or companion.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
and still not actually there. TR was built before he was born
All the TR is is a piece of equipment powered by Superman's (along with others) essence. It literally existed before he was born
I'm really not sure what kind of distinction you're trying to make. Superman was in control, just like Hal controls his own ring, or Batman controls his batgadgets.
Originally posted by -Pr-
And we both consider them to be Firestorm, don't we? And even then, one drives the body, while another acts as a kind of advisor or companion.I'm really not sure what kind of distinction you're trying to make. Superman was in control, just like Hal controls his own ring, or Batman controls his batgadgets.
So Destroyer is part of Composite Odin? Placing him at Celestial level when maxed out? If so then I can accept TR as some wierd version of composite Supes.
Composite Rogue is a problem too then.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So Destroyer is part of Composite Odin? Placing him at Celestial level when maxed out? If so then I can accept TR as some wierd version of composite Supes.Composite Rogue is a problem too then.
I don't read Thor comics, so I honestly don't know.
What do you mean by Composite Rogue? Rogue using all the powers she's absorbed, or something else?
Originally posted by Adam GrimesBut he isn't really, is he?
Ultraman being also a version of Superman. Lol.
Originally posted by -Pr-they are both firestorm but is the pink ranger her zord. I think combined words are the nearest analogy to ultra man and superman co-joined in a cosmic mecha.
And we both consider them to be Firestorm, don't we? And even then, one drives the body, while another acts as a kind of advisor or companion.I'm really not sure what kind of distinction you're trying to make. Superman was in control, just like Hal controls his own ring, or Batman controls his batgadgets.
Ultraman is an alt world Clark and isn't composite with Clark
He is a separate character
Parallel world versions of a character do not go in composite. For instance, AoA (though it's more alternate timeline than parallel reality) AoA Logan isn't part of composite. Neither is gold clawed Logan with the mutton chops.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't read Thor comics, so I honestly don't know.What do you mean by Composite Rogue? Rogue using all the powers she's absorbed, or something else?
A machine powered by a living being's consciousness or essence. That's what Destroyer is. Just like TR. And yeah, everything Rogue has ever absorbed should be composite right?
Originally posted by Putinbot1
But he isn't really, is he? they are both firestorm but is the pink ranger her zord. I think combined words are the nearest analogy to ultra man and superman co-joined in a cosmic mecha.
Let's say I agree with you; what difference does that actually make?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Ultraman is an alt world Clark and isn't composite with ClarkHe is a separate character
Parallel world versions of a character do not go in composite. For instance, AoA (though it's more alternate timeline than parallel reality) AoA Logan isn't part of composite. Neither is gold clawed Logan with the mutton chops.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
TR is an armour created by the monitors for 2 separate supermen to pilot. Ironman aka tony stark has built armours to his specifications be it mentally or genetically. It’s apart of him. This however is a completely different story
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Superman and Ultraman are smashed together, and that composite being that has Superman's personality (for the comic at least) pilots the armour.
I don't see what the issue is. Again, I ask, if I agreed with you, what difference would that make?
Originally posted by SquallX
Do you even understand Final Crisis? The TR was made to specifically use Superman stories to battle the greatest of evils. Why? Because Superman is the ultimate gold story. Morrison made that clear. Why is this so hard?
So if Ultraman is a completely different being and his energy was needed to power the Thought Robot how can that be considered Superman?
Originally posted by -Pr-No difference tbh, I'm merely being semantic and pedantic and also pasting relatively benign discussion bait.
Let's say I agree with you; what difference does that actually make?I'm not sure what you're getting at. Superman and Ultraman are smashed together, and that composite being that has Superman's personality (for the comic at least) pilots the armour.
I don't see what the issue is. Again, I ask, if I agreed with you, what difference would that make?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilBecause Ultraman is part of Superman mythology, He is one of superman's symmetries in his stories.
So if Ultraman is a completely different being and his energy was needed to power the Thought Robot how can that be considered Superman?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because Ultraman is part of Superman mythology, He is one of superman's symmetries in his stories.
And Valla also explained why she needs superman, Only when Superman stories(Superman essnece) powering TR it could beat mandrakk
"Enough energy in my hands to broadcast HIS PURE ESSENCE to a receiver in a higher dimension, Only SUPERMAN CAN save us"
https://ibb.co/NgvYJYN
"I found a better Story, one created to be unstoppable, indestructible.......The story of a child rocketed to earth from a doomed planet"
https://ibb.co/tp0pQpG
they symmetry comes from them being the same energy just on opposite ends of the spectrum